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How Much Is That Duck In The Window?

ARTHUR:

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With 15 scouts credentialed for last night's game, any joy derived from Anaheim's 2-point performance is tempered with the certainty that a trade is coming, and, as far as the pro scouting world is concerned, so is a fire sale.

Daniel, based on last night's performers, what move do you think has the best chance of shaking up this roster and getting the Ducks the 37 wins they'll need to contend for the playoffs-- should the team move one of last night's superstars (be they point-streaking dynamos or Finnish power play machines), one of last night's role players or the man between the pipes? And for what? Give me your single key trade (and only that trade).

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DANIEL:

I'd like to take this opportunity to hate on James Wisniewski. Wiz has the most movable contract, with the highest upside. After all, how many top 4 defenseman have expiring contracts that can be shipped to contenders with cap problems? I'm looking at you Chicago, Washington, and New York, the Rangers not the Islanders. Wisniewski would have provided a high draft pick and NHL player. Instead he proves to half the teams in the league that he's made of glass. So, why don't you go make another mistake on the kill WIz so you can force the knife a little deeper into my back?

Now that that's out of the way, I have to say our best trade bait is still Joffrey Lupul. I hate to do it to the guy since he's so happy to be back, but he's on pace for around 25 goals despite a relatively slow start. His contract is a little scary, but on the right line he can still be a force, as he demonstrated when he was getting time on the top line. I think some of the surprise teams this year, Phoenix, or the Islanders might see Lupul's extra 20 goals as a way to keep themselves in the hunt all year long.

When we trade Lupul for a second time as punishment for not being able to mesh with Selanne, my ideal return would be a solid stay-at-home defenseman, and a high draft pick, like a second or third rounder. If the team doesn't want to part with the pick, then I think we need a prospect with top 6 potential. In my real world he goes to Phoenix for Kurt Sauer and a 3rd round pick In my happy fantasy world we trade Joffrey Lupul to the St. Louis Blues for Paul Kariya and a 2nd round pick. I know this doesn't involve that defenseman I want, but I'd love to see Kariya back in Anaheim, on a line with Koivu and Selanne. Make my dream come true Murray and I might forgive you for giving Beauchemin's money to Wisniewski.

 

ARTHUR:

I'd accuse you of freely ignoring the "ONLY THAT TRADE" caveat, but as a trade for Paul Kariya would do very little to get us 37 wins, I'll let it slide as the same trade i would make as an EA NHL 10 general manager if my season was going down the toilet.

And I share your Wisniewski hatred because I, too, would have pegged him as bait when his fragility was still a west coast secret, when we could point to his repeated knee injuries as bad luck.  But it's now obvious to 15 NHL scouts that from shoulder to knee to foot, this guy does not have the body to play a full career as a professional athlete.  And as we received anonymous Blogger hatred the last time I said that, I should reiterate that there's nothing wrong with that.  From Mario Lemieux's back to whatever is going on with Marian Gaborik's hips and groin, some players just aren't built to go the long haul, regardless of how much talent they have.  And that's why the truly responsible and durable athletes in contact sports deserve every penny they get; it's astounding what they do. 

My trade is exactly what was on the table in a Marchant for Higgins deal.  I think we send a role player out for a scorer, perhaps buying low on a struggling player but nothing as feeble-minded as the McDonald for Weight deal, I mean a real scorer.  At minimum, we move Marchant for a larger, and thus (sadly) Pahlsson-like, checking line center.  

And that seems feasible after the bottom six performance last night.  It would hurt to move a fan favorite like Parros or a quality player like Marchant, but if we can get by with players like Sharp, Beleskey and Calder, then we should consider adding someone with more utility than Parros or more size and scoring skill than Marchant.  I'll miss either player, and the facial hair that goes along with them, but the Ducks are not in a place to turn down an upgrade for sentimental value.

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I should note on Wiz that he seems to be injured on every play and battle through it, only occasionally costing us a goal. And that’s definitely inspiring, or it was the first dozen times I saw it. After that, it was like watching a fat guy labor his way back to the bench after every shift. I wondered if he should even be playing hockey, much less professional hockey.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Nov 20, 2009 1:36 AM PST reply actions  

I’m a little tired of Wisniewski as well. Not because he’s always playing hurt and costing us goals, but because even when he’s healthy you can count on him to make at least 5 bone headed plays a game that will lead to quality scoring chances. Wiz is the reincarnation of Ozolinsh, only without as high of an offensive upside.

by Daniel AC on Nov 20, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I think all of us, as Ducks fans, are overlooking the fact that maybe it was Bobby Ryan all those scouts were there to see. He is a pending RFA, has been a little underwhelming so far; he’s on pace to post the same number of goals and assists as he did last year in 60 games. NOT a good sign. I would hate to see be Bobby go, especially because I dont think we would get very much in return, a solid D-man and a 1st, and that would probably be a late first rounder if he is sent to a contender, unless it is Boston.

So let’s imagine for a minute that we did send him to Boston, would we be happy with Stuart or Wideman + 1st Rounder for Bobby?
This is definitely something they would consider because of their HORRID salary problems.
I personally would love to see us get Lucic in return but he is held in way too high of regards over there and it would probably have to be a 1 for 1 swap.

So what say you Anaheim Calling?

Bobby Ryan for Dennis Wideman/Mark Stuart + Torontos Draft Pick?

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by The Waterboy on Nov 20, 2009 12:37 PM PST reply actions  

I really like Hunwick, but that’s a different matter.

We’re not dismissing who they were there to see. I think, having 15 scouts in the house, they’re there to see EVERYBODY. It’s a true fire sale they’re expecting. No one came to see what they were offered. They came to see what they expect to be for sale. A superstar deal is certainly on the table. And in a scenario where we carry Jiggy and Hiller on the books next year for the lack of Jiggy dancing partners, trading bobby ryan certainly makes the money work better.

It’s tough to make that work in the long term, though. Getz and Pers contracts are slowly ticking down, and three first rounders next year (with two top 5’s) only helps us if we throw them into the mix now or re-sign getz and pers to lifetime deals when our picks will have matured. And even then, can you get two Top 5’s and two lifetime deals under the cap? At some point, we may be dealing for TOO MUCH future, and at that point, it makes more sense to move a Perry than a Ryan, just so that the contract lengths sync up better with the prospects we get.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Nov 20, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I say no. Bobby is on pace for only 52 points. I think he’ll finish closer to 65. But if you’re looking for a major pay day, you can’t have around the same amount of points in a greater number of games. Which is exactly what Bobby is looking at. If that’s the case, and barring a team offering up the 3 picks it’ll take to sign him, I see Bobby getting a contract at 5-6 years with about a 4.5 cap hit, if that. In that situation you’re looking at Lupul and Ryan as having essentially the same cap value, even though Ryan has way more long term value. In that situation you’ve got to ship Lupul and start bringing up the offensive prospects like Dan Sexton, Maxime Macenauer, and Logan MacMillan.

by Daniel AC on Nov 20, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Good point, I completely omitted another team signing him and us getting 3 draft picks.

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by The Waterboy on Nov 20, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

MacMillan hasn’t really been an offensive prospect since the day we drafted him. And he’s got all of 1pt. 1 goal in the ECHL, dead last amongst players who’ve played all 15 games. I think he gets the nod to go to the bottom six before Sexton gets the nod for the Top 6, but he’s not going to create scoring, not anymore, poor bastard.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Nov 20, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t been keeping up with the stats. I was making that observation based solely off the fact that he was drafted so high, it must have been for offensive upside.

by Daniel AC on Nov 20, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Well it’s been a while since he was voracek’s passenger. No one’s really projected offense for him since, especially after he took residence on a checking line when Halifax traded him. I’ve reported on him and updated people on his performance in Bakersfield if you or anyone else is interested in where he is. Just search ‘macmillan’

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Nov 20, 2009 3:32 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

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