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ARTHUR:
The Ducks are nursing a five game losing streak during their Thanksgiving break, and the front office is making more than a few minor roster moves during the downtime.  The news according to Eric Stephens is that Bob Murray is fine with the roster as is and that if he's looking for anyone, it's for the purposes of filling the third and fourth lines. 

Still, after all these moves, the possibility of an NHL player for NHL player trade is on the table, and Anaheim is perhaps looking to infuse some new blood into the lineup, so it behooves me to ask: Daniel, do you think a trade is the answer to the Ducks' problems right now?

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DANIEL:
A trade might help if it stops the spinning doors on the Anaheim lines. But honestly, I don't think a trade will really solve any problems. The Ducks have played well throughout this losing streak, except for, you know, all the losing. They just haven't been able to get the bounces to go their way. Deflections are getting past Hiller, but Anaheim's deflections keep hitting the opposition netminders. Several times against the Oilers, the Ducks couldn't get rebounds to lay flat for the put back. Bobby Ryan hit a few posts; Getzlaf...wait, did Getzlaf play? I digress. Moral of the story, this team has been carrying the play for very long stretches, but they haven't been getting the goal totals they need to win games.

Lupul will be back in a couple of weeks, and he'll increase the scoring depth. It's been so long since he played that when he comes back, it will be like acquiring a brand new player via trade. Personally, I think the Ducks will eventually have to move Blake. Sure, he plays hard, but he also can't tell the difference between the back of the net and the logo on a goalie's sweater he's been so snakebit lately.

Trades always sound like a good idea. As fans, we love to read about them, and shiny new players always bring a sense of new possibilities. However, for the past few years, this team's psyche has been very temperamental. If they start getting punished for playing well, but not getting the desired result, they'll start to wonder what they have to do in order for their jobs to be safe. Right now, Murray needs to calm down and channel Phil Jackson. If the Ducks play through this and come out on the right end, they will be a better and more dangerous team.

 

ARTHUR:
Well, there are trades that would help, picking up a major defenseman for example, but I don't think that's what Murray is looking for right now.  But I definitely see the benefits of bringing in some strong depth players and strong locker room guys who might be immune, or at least resistant, to the culture of complacency that permeates the Anaheim locker room.  I think the poor opening to the season proved that the Ducks have yet to acquire those players.

And this is a team where the depth forwards can have a lot of impact.  The third and fourth lines under Carlyle have picked up the play for a listless top six on numerous occasions, so I really can't deny the positive effect of minor trades.  Ultimately, though, I don't think a minor trade would do anything.  This team needs more, just as it needed more during free agency.

Right now, I think it's more important for Carlyle to get through to his star players and for his star players to dig deep than it is for us to make key acquisitions.  It would be nice to get the equivalent of a Pahlsson or even a McDonald, and I don't deny that would help, but right now I'd rather trade Getzlaf for GETZLAF.  I'm not opposed to a big deal, of course, but until there's whispers of Murray actually considering one, I'm not holding my breath either.

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Part of me almost hopes that we keep losing, just so RC and BM are shown the door…

We need more Boyntons.

by yankeeken on Nov 23, 2010 5:15 PM PST reply actions  

and we can pickup Adam Larsson

by Mudhippy on Nov 23, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno about that, we already have a good cupboard of D prospects.

by kvd123 on Nov 24, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

“Well, there are trades that would help, picking up a major defenseman for example, but I don’t think that’s what Murray is looking for right now” -Arthur

Who is this amazing defensemen everyone thinks we can get, last I checked no major defensemen are on, or are going to be on the markt anytime soon.

Bieksa and Kaberle are NOT elite defensemen.

by JD54 on Nov 23, 2010 6:05 PM PST reply actions  

I think the whole point of trades is that they open up the possibilities. Lubo wasn’t reportedly “on the market.” And there was talk of the Blackhawks moving Keith before they eventually moved Barker. You have about a half dozen teams struggling with the cap right now. If Bob Murray commits to making a trade, he can probably get something done, especially if he were willing to move a major piece, as he threatened emptily. But he won’t commit to making a trade.

Look at Burke last year. He got a deal done that didn’t involve the obvious “on the market” players. If every deal was based on who was reportedly available on the message boards, I’d agree with you.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Nov 23, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I want Blake to stay.

"There is no gravity son, the world just sucks." - my father.

by tu madre on Nov 23, 2010 7:00 PM PST reply actions  

i dont think you trade unless its too good to pass up…i still think its a coaching/slash snakebit thing..i actually like most of our players

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Nov 24, 2010 6:57 AM PST reply actions  

Blake is untradeable anyway with his cap hit and current performance level. Nobody is willing to add salary right now. The only way he leaves is if we pick up an even worse contract in return. I mean like Wade Redden worse. So Sexton Mac and Bonino came back up. I was wrong on every level on that one. Weirdest thing ever to move those guys down and then bring them right back up. A trade offer must have fallen through or else it was just a cruel, pointless thing to do.

by Ryanb903 on Nov 24, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I thnk the sending down of Sexton, Mac and Bonino had mostly to do with cap and actual payroll management. Since they were on two-way deals, the Ducks knew that they could not lose them. So the “time” they were in the AHL, they were getting paid AHL money and not their NHL salary. Since the Ducks were not practicing for the two days, that is why they were sent down.

by Randy P on Nov 24, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

a 40k savings? Yea I heard that too but I also think part of it was to get extra practice since the Ducks had Monday and Tuesday off.

by Ryanb903 on Nov 24, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

It actually had to do more with the maximum amount of players and minimum amount of players on the roster

Jonas Hiller < McGlovin

by Natesaduck on Nov 24, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Replacing the coach.

I’m going to use the Dallas Cowboys as an example here because I see some similarities between them and the Ducks. The Cowboys are loaded with talent but were under-performing until they made a coaching change. I think Carlyle, like Wade Phillips, has lost his team. The message is not getting through, the players have lost confidence in the coaches ability to lead. I don’t think a player trade would make a single bit of difference, they need a new coach.

by Crabby on Nov 26, 2010 8:17 AM PST reply actions  

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