***NHL Will Suspend Wisniewski 8 Games***
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 2:12 PM PDT
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THE TELETYPE:
Per ESPN, the NHL will suspend James Wisniewski for 8 games after his hit on Brent Seabrook in last night's game against the Blackhawks. A hearing via conference call regarding the incident was held today before Anaheim's scheduled practice.
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Not only is it great news that he got 8 games, he was big time Chicken S—t fighting with his visor on. What a peice of crap Wiz has turned into. And to think at one time he was loved in Chicago
yeah, i’m starting to doubt Blackhawks fans based on how many of them not only loved Wisniewski, but actually thought of him as a good player before this. Maybe I’ve been too harsh on Anaheim fans for not seeing the light. He’s some sort of hockey playing Mysterio.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t see any blackhawks taking off their shells. If you want someone to drop their shell takes yours off first and call him out. Otherwise beat it off his damn head when you wrap up. Its not like they are on there that tight anyways.
by Newport Rebel on Mar 18, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Serious question
If Ovechkin hadn’t destroyed Cambell earlier this week, is this an 8 game suspension?
by PhantomPretender on Mar 18, 2010 2:30 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
If Wisniewski hadn’t destroyed Doan earlier this year, this isn’t an 8 game suspension. If Wiz is clean and was called for a Major, game misconduct and ejected in game, this might not even be a 2 game suspension. Hard to call what Campbell does predictable, but repeat offender who was not punished in-game is usually a recipe for a looong suspension.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
If Wiz’ name was Ovechkin this wouldn’t be a 8 game suspension. Wiz is an acceptable loss for the NHL. Ovechkin is the NHL’s star player and is not.
by Newport Rebel on Mar 18, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m really getting tired of these double standards when it comes to punishment. Ovechkin could kill someone and the worst the NHL would do is give him a five game suspension.
And east coast fans would complain.
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by brokenyard on Mar 18, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Double standards seem to be the norm for the NHL. I remember a few seasons ago when Doan instigated a fight with the Ducks in the last 2 minutes of a game in Phoenix and yet he avoided the “automatic” suspension perhaps due to the fact that his coach at the time was Gretzky. Apparently even a rule that includes an “automatic” suspension only applies to certain players on certain teams.
yeah, he punched Vishnevski on some BS that was at least four shifts old. If we’re going to go back, we should go all the way back to Suter/Kariya. That’s what I tried to do with the blackhawks fans, but they all called me old. Burke gave Suter something like four games. He crosschecked a guy in the face for scoring on him!! Four games!?!?!?! and we didn’t even get retribution in game. And when we threatened to in the next game, Chelios threatened to go after Selanne. For the brief moment that we tried to play without goons, we were victimized and the NHL didn’t help us, so I really don’t mind it if we’re stuck with Frontier Justice and suspensions.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Amen! I found it impossible to root for the US Olympic team in Nagano because of Suter’s hit and Chelios’ comments about Kariya being “soft”.
I also remember the game in Dallas (I think it was later that season) where Selanne was checked in the head up against the glass and the game ended with only a couple players including the back up goalie left on the bench after all the fights. Bottom line is the NHL needs to get some consistency in the supplemental discipline and they need to get rid of the instigator penalty. How many players would take liberties with hits to the head if they knew they would have to drop the gloves and answer for it?
It’s funny that you mention the Rumble at Reunion. That was our Christmas Card this year. Hawks fans keep talking about taking the high road, but Brent Severyn (stupidly) took the high road on our behalf once, and now Paul Kariya can’t remember his kids’ names when he plays with them. Once we get some effective officiating and some concrete supplemental discipline, then I’ll be much tougher on the stuff that goes on outside of the boundaries of the game
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s 12 kinds of beyond real. I don’t even know if Kariya has kids, but I bet he hangs out with his nephews and thinks they’re his kids cuz he’s that messed up. Sometimes I forget how bad those years were to us. I don’t ever want to go back to that. Comparing how I feel about teams now and teams then, ita like breaking out of prison.
by Daniel AC on Mar 18, 2010 11:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, Severyn scared me off of enforcer-free hockey for good. Karpa trying to climb into the box after Ludwig was priceless, but that’s about all Karpa was good for. He didn’t really knew how to needle the other superstars. When Chelios responded to Karpa’s threats by saying the Hawks would go after Selanne, I’m sure Karpa’s head exploded. Checkmate.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 19, 2010 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks! Was Ludwig even suspended for his flying elbow on Selanne? Yes, I was very disappointed that nobody on the Ducks went after Suter for his crosscheck to Kariya’s face AFTER he scored. I wonder how many games Suter would get in the “new” NHL?
I think people should look to that to see how much the NHL has changed, even since the 90s. They act like anything short of squeaky clean hockey would be the final scene in Youngblood, while forgetting that the final scene in Youngblood actually happened in the NHL when Ted Green and Wayne Maki went at it. The game is fast now, but it was fast in the 80s, too, and they still found ways to cheapshot each other regularly. We’re at least beyond the point where we’re crosschecking people in the face for scoring. I’m happy about that.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 19, 2010 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I won’t bore everyone with the full argument, but there are lots of reasons, including the internet, that have created a reactionary culture where everyone has an “expert” opinion on what happened instead of just their regular one. I think when you can constantly absorb what happens over and over again it generates more outrage.
Not to mention the freeze frame overkill on every damn hockey message board i visit. Makes me think most of these kids on the internet have never played hockey, or ever had to make split second decisions in the heat of the moment while human bodies are flying at you at over 20mph.
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yeah, i hated having to play the screenshot game on the Seabrook hit on Perry, but someone posted a screenshot set with a high angle that made it look like the contact point was at the shoulder, when in reality, Perry ducks the shoulder. Seabrook makes a hockey player decision after he misses the hit to stick his arms out. I don’t fault him for it, but just like sticking a leg or elbow out, you never know what will happen.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 19, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
If McSorley gets 23 games and charged with assault......
then Wiz gets off easy. Leaving his feet to deliever the shot to Seabrooks head is the “intent to injure”. Skating from beyond the blue line to deliever a hit to a player without the puck is “assault with the intent to injure”
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It must be great
to live in a world with supreme moral righteousness where you can KNOW the intent of the players on the ice.
I’ll just say this: Anyone who believes the league’s ruling vindicates their opinion of the hit (right or wrong) is crazy. I think we can all agree that the NHL has some legitimate problems with consistently doling out punishment. This is yet another example.
by PhantomPretender on Mar 18, 2010 3:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed. There are some major inconsistency issues when this is compared to other similar hits, such as Ovechkin’s hit. Also, why in the world didn’t Seabrook get a suspension for his head shot on Perry?
It should’ve been an in-game penalty, but as there was no injury, it wouldn’t have been a major penalty. I don’t know if they could ever suspend a guy because the refs missed calling a minor.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I mainly meant that if Wiz “deserved” an 8 game suspension, then Seabrook should have at least gotten a 2 gamer.
The bottom line, though, is that the NHL needs to get their act together. They need to come up with concrete guidelines to put an end to things like this and become consistent with their punishments.
8 games it is
He’ll be out most of next year with “emotional problems”
Have a good rest of the year
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By then he won’t be playing for us and we won’t care. I don’t know where people got the impression that we like Wisniewski. This blog has probably seen the highest volume of Wisniewski hate this year.
I thought you would be the first comment on this, basically just you clapping and cheering.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a big issue
Wis not playing? Whatever.
Nied, Vis, Brookbank, Festerling, Eminger, and Ward
That’s a perfectly fine defense corps. Eminger makes fewer bone head mistakes in the offensive zone than Wisniewski anyways.
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eight games is pretty long, and we might be out of contention halfway through. Now we’re talking about maybe seeing Sbisa or Newton or who people who can actually play defense! I’m a bit tickled, I must admit.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
In my heart, I feel like we have a couple of great defensive prospects that can really help us. It’s like Christmas when you get that new game you’ve always wanted and there’s this moment where you don’t know if it will be awesome, or if it will only be kind of cool. That’s how I feel bout our D prospects right now. I’m not an expert though and that’s probably why.
haha. Newton is currently practicing with the team and Carlyle put it on the table. If the season is out of reach I’d say Sbisa or Newton are strong possiblities. obviously, if we’re actually still mathematically in it, why put anyone but Mikkel in there.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m writing a breakdown on Newton. I’ll get back to it when the WCHA play-in is over.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
If we refused to “expose” Sbisa to our crappy team at the beginning of the season, then why would we “expose” him to it now?
P.S. If we call up Sbisa, I’m officially going to be back on the Fire Murray campaign.
he looked great in the olympics and juniors. I think you give him a few gamechecks just to make him happy. He’s probably pissed he didn’t get to stay, so we owe him a few gamechecks. It’s not like they’ll be meaningful games, but he gets a first class team meal instead of whatever they serve the AHL or ECHL guys, and he gets a meaningful gamecheck.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh, Sbisa was returned to his junior team at the start of the season so he cannot be called back up to the Ducks this season. But he should make the team in training camp next season.
8 games seems a bit long for Wiz even given his status as a repeat offender, especially when Cooke and Richards didn’t get any supplementary discipline for their hits on Savard and Booth.
sigh. Sbisa can join any pro team after the WHL season concludes, which is why he joined Philly for the playoffs last year after lethbridge was eliminated. I’m really tired of people not looking up the juniors rules, especially if they seek to contradict people on it
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 9:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
SIGH! I’m going on what was announced at the time Sbisa was sent down to juniors by the Ducks! The “official” announcement indicated that by sending him back to his junior team the Ducks would NOT be able to call him back up this season. As far as looking up the juniors rules, why don’t you help me out and tell me where I can find this?
THANKS!
Sorry if I took that out on you. We’ve been getting a lot of Blackhawk trolling today and I was probably in a mood because of it.
By remainder of the season, they surely mean the remainder of the WHL season or they are misinformed. By sending him back down, we return him to his WHL contract, where they own his rights until their season concludes. He is currently with the Winterhawks, and due to his late month birth year, he is subject to that contract and only that contract after we send him down and until his service under that contract concludes. But once it does, he is available to any of our pro teams.
Again, sorry Kimo31, we’ve been fielding a lot of Blackhawks fans here, and it hasn’t been pretty, but yes, it may only be for a few games, or he may be completely unavaialalbe (I haven’t looked at the juniors schedule), but there is a chance we could see him for a couple of games, and cut him a couple of gamechecks.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
If he doesn’t join the Ducks at the end of the WHL season, here‘s a good article on where he might end up. He will NOT be relegated to the ECHL cheese sandwich (or whatever they serve those poor bastards on gameday) like so many of our other prospects. If the Ducks don’t want to start him, there are plenty of teams that do.
I should say one more time, Kimo31, sorry about that. I didn’t even check to see if you were a ducks fan. I just saw someone getting in between a discussion with me and yankeeken and assumed it was a Blackhawks fan who wanted me to look at another screenshot. I really shouldn’t be alienating fans right after they join. I owe you one if you stick around. One free personal attack on me.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
No problem. It has been a rough season and Wisniewski’s suspension is just the last straw. 8 games vs. 0 for Richards and 0 for Cooke just doesn’t seem “fair” but then of course life and the NHL are not fair, right? :)
I’m really not sure why Campbell can’t just be fast and loose with the suspensions. Is the NHLPA really that strong? They looked weak at each of the last two lockouts. Hopefully we can see some consistency if there’s a rule change next year. I don’t want it to be like the 5 minute Major for Interference where we’re just having this same debate again because there’s a rule, but no one is using it correctly.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps the NHL needs a rule like baseball where the commissioner has the power to act in the “best interests” of the game. That would allow him to suspend players even when they technically have not broken a rule. Of course they would probably have to negotiate that into the CBA so I won’t hold my breath on that one.
And yes, applying the rules correctly and uniformly would be a refreshing change in the NHL!
I’m not saying that he wouldn’t be a good asset. I’m just saying that I would be pissed if we called him up now, after Murray made such a big deal out of not exposing him to our win-less lives earlier in the season. Of course, he should have never been sent to Juniors in the first place.
yeah, i know what you meant, but I think we give him a few gamechecks because we owe him a few, regardless of whether or not it means swallowing pride in the front office or behind the bench and admititng you’re wrong, which they were
And i wouldn’t mind him being sent to the juniors if Murray had given any inkling that it was a possibility. Instead he was like, oh, he’s gonna play. he won’t be scratched. he won’t ride the bench. He’s gonna start for us or I’ll move him. Move him back to Lethbridge? He had no foresight for the blueline this year. Now they’re talking about Eminger like he’s a flu virus. Carlyle, too! Eminger’s boy is lamenting giving him gameitme again! If ANOTHER McNab player leapfrogs the Murray, Carlyle, or Paterson sponsored players for this season, I think they should just admit that McNab runs this team. Just stop lying to yourselves.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
SIGH! According to the Ducks own website, Sbisa is NOT eligible to be recalled because he is under 20 years old and the rules state that under 20 players can NOT be sent down and recalled in the same season. By the way, I believe Sbisa started the season with the Flyers back in 2008-09 and was sent down later in the season which means that he was NOT allowed to be recalled to the NHL after that happened. Sorry to “contradict” you with the “rules”! ;)
Sbisa played an NHL playoff game for the Flyers in 2008-2009. How he did that without being called up? He also played 39 games that season, something he couldn’t have done if it was the last 39 of the year because it would have been in the middle of the WHL season. It only makes sense if he split time in the beginning and end of the season. I could be wrong though; I’m tired.
Here’s the link to Sbisa’s stats at NHL.com
http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8474579
Here is the link to the Ducks website where they say he can NOT be called back up.
http://ducks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=503503
Sbisa did play in 1 playoff game so I presume he was called up in the middle of the NHL season in 2008-09. The Flyers were short of D-men that season so perhaps that would explain why they would call him up in the middle of the season. I don’t know and his stats only list the number of games played so if anyone knows where we can find a game log that would help resolve this.
there’s some misinformation there. He cannot be sent to the JUNIORS and subsequently recalled. HIs WHL contract is separate. If an NHL player under 20, or under the eligibility requirements, is sent back to his juniors team, that’s it, he has to serve his juniors contract. The juniors team cannot be treated as a minor league team. However, once his juniors team’s season ends, he is again available. The Flyers had to wait a while on Sbisa last year because the Hurricanes went two rounds, but he was eventually available for a a week of games and the playoffs. I haven’t been keeping up with Portland, but something similar could happen this year, and after sending him down, we owe him a couple of checks.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Portland starts their Conference quarterfinal playoff series on Saturday and if it goes 7 games it won’t end until March 31st. So if they win and advance to the Conference semifinals then Sbisa probably won’t be available unless the Ducks make the playoffs and I don’t think that will happen. Too many teams are ahead of the Ducks in the standings and they just about have to run the table to have any shot at the playoffs. Too bad especially if Selanne and Niedermayer retire after the season.
I put an article link above to Hoornstra who says the AHL wants him for their playoffs. Sbisa will get some kind of check from our organization. There’s also an another apology to you there ;-) sorry about that
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s OK. Maybe if Portland gets swept the Ducks can call Sbisa up right away. He played well in the Olympics and hopefully he will be with the Ducks for many seasons to come.
he can’t really help us this year, but i’m adamant that we owe him money. Philly at least had the balls to play him long enough to toll a year off his restricted free agency. we basically screwed him this year.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 18, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I just saw one of the most ridiculous articles on bleacher report. The guy was trying to prove that the Ducks are a team of thugs and other than this hit all his examples were from the Burke era. He doesn’t seem to understand that the post-Burke Ducks are nothing like the current Ducks.
bleacher report is useless. Sorry to SK if she’s reading this. Nothing personal. And no SBN homerism here. I just find Bleacher Report useless. If ESPN were CNN, then bleacher report would be Access Hollywood.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 19, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Anaheim Calling would be a xeroxed, newsletter, of course, but still…
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Mar 19, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
They are just pissed off because we have palm trees outside of our area and we can hit the beach 300 days a year.
by Newport Rebel on Mar 19, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
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