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GOAT (Er, Giving Out Awards Time)

ARTHUR:

The Ducks were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs last night. And for the first time this season, I can ask for a post mortem without getting the business end of the You're-Being-Too-Negative stick.

So, Daniel, in a season where almost everyone came up short for Anaheim, I'm going to ask you to do the impossible. Pick out a goat. Who, in your opinion, was most egregiously guilty of failing to deliver for the Ducks?

Star-divide

DANIEL:

Well, first, in my mind, you have used a twisted form of The Secret to ensure that we didn't make the playoffs. Just kidding . . . maybe.

With so much failure on so many levels, it's hard to pick a single goat. Let's face facts, we failed this year because of games like last night against the Kings. We settled into a defensive system, but the D just wasn't there. For that, I blame Bob Murray. He let Scott Niedermayer's defensive partner, Francois Beauchemin, just walk away, and replaced him with this year's biggest goat in my opinion, James Wisniewski.

Ok, so anyone who's been following this blog knows I hate Wiz with a passion that can only be compared to my hate for all things Red Wings. Anyone looking at the stats will think I'm crazy. Wisniewski's 3+24=27 and -1 rating are pretty good for a guy who spent most of his time with Scotty against the top offensive talents in the league. But Wiz was endemic of the problems that the entire team faced. The guy is inconsistent and unpredictable. One second he's an offensive defenseman with a great wrister from the point, and the next he thinks he's a shot blocker and he's crumpled to the ice. The strong Anaheim teams of the past 4 years had a common feature: players who knew their roles and filled them. Wisniewski's either wasn't clear to him, or he simply refused to fill it. As you've pointed out many times, Arthur, the guy is a small offensive defenseman, and he needed a big year on this trial contract to earn a raise. I mean, I'm glad he thinks he's a tough guy and sticks up for his teammates, but what's the use if the only way you know how to protect people gets you suspended?  He's now marked the way players like Chris Pronger and Evgeny Artyukhin are.

James Wisniewski might have put up some good numbers, but his erratic play was a huge contributing factor to our defensive breakdowns. No, he wasn't the only one. But his mistakes, even the ones Hiller saved for him, put a constant strain on the entire team, especially Scotty's ability to get involved in plays. Wiz was whimsical. We never really knew what we were getting from him, only that he was eventually going to go limping off the ice from a blocked shot. It's not that he's worthless, just that too much responsibility was laid at his feet. Murray should have found a better upgrade on the blueline. In the end, it probably cost us just enough games to watch the playoffs from home, instead of the Ponda Center.

 

ARTHUR:

I should note that you initially wanted to answer Bob Murray, but you weren't sure if someone who wasn't on the roster was fair game and couldn't get a hold of me in time.  Well, not only are they fair game, but Bob Murray lost a narrow race to Randy Carlyle for the goat award in my book.  Carlyle wins because he failed to make a U-turn; he failed to actually acknowledge he could get fired for his performance.  I mean, the way he's coached this team, you'd think he was on a lifetime appointment.  

The vision of this year's team was unrealistic: three scoring lines and abundant blueline offense.  Sure, there are franchises that can put that together.  The Red Wings have plenty of homegrown talent and the Penguins had the money and the high draft picks to assemble a perennial contender.  But Bob Murray, on a shoestring budget and uhh limited GM experience (we'll call it), wasn't going to pull that off.  The best he could do was build a rocket ship out of popsicle sticks.  I blame him AND Carlyle for trying to launch it, but five months later, Murray discarded Boynton, made what I hope was a laughable offer to Wisniewski and shipped off Ryan Whitney.  Meanwhile, Carlyle is still shuffling the ashes and trying to figure out how to get this rocket ship back on re-entry.

Early in the season, it seemed understandable that the coaches were trying new special teams systems and that the lines and rosters were never very stable.  It looked like Classic Randy Carlyle.  Now, with the players not responding and the heart completely drained from this team, it looks desperate.  He looks like a guy trying to solve a jigsaw puzzle by shaking the pieces in the box until they all fit together.  He was hoping this team would find its own way, and he was hoping they would do it without the confidence of their coach, or any sense of stability, frankly.  And, in his defense, that worked on four rosters for four seasons, but it hasn't worked on this group.  Either Carlyle doesn't see that, or he doesn't believe there's any other way to coach.

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so now what the fuck? what the hell? fuck everybody in the ducks organizatiojn and their roster bottom up

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 4:00 AM PDT reply actions  

What are you asking exactly? That fans should say fuck you to the Ducks? That Arthur and I are saying fuck you to the Ducks? Who exactly is saying fuck you to whom?

by Daniel AC on Apr 7, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like how you treat it like a syntax error, like there’s a dangling modifying fuck you problem. Seventy-five percent of Albert K’s comments are ‘fuck the ducks’ and ‘god save Peter Holland.’. I think he’s secretly a Sharks fan.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Apr 7, 2010 9:55 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I gotta say

I love when you rip Daniel. Its comedy gold.

by PhantomPretender on Apr 7, 2010 12:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Haha. Not really a Daniel rip as much as an ignore Albert

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Apr 7, 2010 3:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I feel like the most contributory player this season was Saku Koivu. He was the most consistent, played most of the season (by staying healthy and not getting suspended), and came up clutch, especially in the post-Olympic stretch.

So, awesome player of the season would go to Saku in my humble option.

"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas

by Slyintine on Apr 7, 2010 8:42 AM PDT reply actions  

That will be our next question, probably.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Apr 7, 2010 9:58 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, but I can’t pick him now…thanks Sly.

by Daniel AC on Apr 7, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I say everyone except Saku. That may make him re-eligible.

http://www.battleofcali.com/

by Earl Sleek on Apr 7, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe his consistency bred contempt and resentment amongst the underperformers.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Apr 7, 2010 4:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Just doing my part! :D

"Just another Halo victory" - Rory Markas

by Slyintine on Apr 7, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

The real reason we didn’t make the playoff is my fault.
reasons:
1) I really really want to go to the baseball Allstar game so that is 4 complete packages for that and that will be a piece of change.
2) Mom’s dog got sick and I spent $4k in 3 days on him.
3) The roof leaks and gotta get that repaired (just replaced it 5 yrs ago dang it
4) There is a leak under the sink and gotta get that repaired.
5) When it rains it pours.

I am so sorry, dang it I am actually hearsick cause we didn’t make it, but it is still my fault.

Let's go Ducks.

by deb d on Apr 7, 2010 10:02 AM PDT reply actions  

So let the public flogging begin.

Let's go Ducks.

by deb d on Apr 7, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t follow. Your string of bad luck infected the team? Or because of your money troubles, you began betting on the Ducks?

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Apr 7, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

no im atcullay a ducks fan but ill try to control my anger… just mad

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

and no im not from san jose i grew up literally in Anaheim… I know a guy who went to school with Matt Barkley

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

im actually from anaheim hills but i guess that still counts as anaheim

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

And you trying to break it down so much makes me more skeptical lol

anyway to the very begining ill say reply fail.

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by TheAngelsColts on Apr 7, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

youre a meanie… lol

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it was for dramatic effect. It was like tapping me on the shoulder while I was trying to talk to someone else

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Apr 7, 2010 6:01 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

lol

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by TheAngelsColts on Apr 7, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

cause if we made the playoffs it woulda cost me for the tickets, so it is like a karma thingy to help me w/ the budget. Cause you know it can’t be those guys on the ice.

Let's go Ducks.

by deb d on Apr 7, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was also that fan’s fault who went to the game but says “the Ducks always lose when I go to the game” We need to find them and ban them.

Cause you know it can’t be those guys on the ice.

Let's go Ducks.

by deb d on Apr 7, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

so the ducks lost cuz of youre bad luck.. wonderful :)

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I am so sorry. I just couldn’t remember which pair were my lucky undies to wear to the game. :-)

Let's go Ducks.

by deb d on Apr 7, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shane Falco Award

Saku played his heart out. He was this years Shane Falco award winner. Teemu would come in second and if he didn’t get hurt then it would have been neck and neck.

by Newport Rebel on Apr 7, 2010 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Does Sameuli have the guts to get rid of the gm and coach?

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I think so. If you look at Sameuli from a business owner perspective he has always been a very sharp businessman. He knows when a companies stock is up and when he needed to step in to get things rolling. The hockey business in Southern California is not an easy market. With MLB and NBA teams around every corner, both the Ducks and Kings are fighting for every fan they can get. What makes fans flock to a team? Winning and that is one thing we did not do enough of this year. You will probably see a drop in fans for Anaheim next year and a few more season tickets bought at Staples. Henry has to step in and get things back on track. If he doesn’t then its his money.

by Newport Rebel on Apr 7, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Personally, I blame Whitney, but Wisniewski is a close second. I was excited to see this tandem this season and I really thought Wis didn’t have that bad of start at all. I started to notice his play decline toward the middle of the season and when Whitney was shipped his horrid play really began to stand out. Still, anything Wis did, Whitney did worse. I could literally go on about how bad he was. Let’s just say I was convinced on some nights he had a couple grand on the line for the Ducks to lose. I think Wis’ problem was that he was trying to hard. Whitney’s problem is that he really just didn’t give a shit and you could see it nearly every night.

I would blame Murray but he saved his ass with the Vis for Whitney swap. Everyone was thinking and wanting Murray to make a trade for Souray, but Vis was the only guy I wanted from the greasers (aside from Hemsky). In reality I thought it would be a dream to trade my least favorite duck (Whitney) for my most favorable candidate to replace him. The sonofabitch pulled it off. And to that, he is pardoned from being this season’s goat.

by Natesaduck on Apr 7, 2010 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

golden lines my friend… “whitney didn’t give a shit”… beautiful it makes me wanna cry

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

amen…wiz sux..and is nothing better than a 4th dman…but whitney was atrocious…if whiz could control himself and be relugated to bottom 4th 5th man status he could fit in

2009-2010 Anaheim Ducks.."Hey at least its not crack!!"

by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 7, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

he kept bitching to randy when he got relegated for a few games

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

ya know when brookbank was paired with shitney

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was really hoping sbisa would be a top four dman and pair with whitney. I knew if that didn’t happen we’d be cooked. You gotta scratch your head at the McCarthy, Boynton, and Eminger signings as wastes of space. Giving up Tangradi and Kunitz for a pile of shit was unacceptable in my book. So the biggest goat is both Murray and Randy. Also the owners if they don’t fire both of them this offseason.

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 1:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I like murray and for the most part i like his descions but yea he dropped the ball on the whitney trade

2009-2010 Anaheim Ducks.."Hey at least its not crack!!"

by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 7, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

really!? you like boynton eminger and mccarthy well i guess youre entitled to your own opinion.

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

cheap risks(rolling the dice) i dont mind..its the costly whitney long contracts that i judge

2009-2010 Anaheim Ducks.."Hey at least its not crack!!"

by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 7, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Adds up though. If you go to Vegas and bet $1m on red 16 four times, I don’t know that you’re smarter than the guy that bet $4m on red. Murray happened to do both without really scouting what players could do

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Apr 7, 2010 9:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Damn, hard watching the Queens skate in the playoffs… Now I won’t be enjoying my summer

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

you will when then get bounced and we all get to laugh at it

2009-2010 Anaheim Ducks.."Hey at least its not crack!!"

by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 7, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

not really cause we still didn’t make it

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

the glass is half full damn it…ITS HALF FULLl!!

2009-2010 Anaheim Ducks.."Hey at least its not crack!!"

by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 7, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

gorilla head aka randy carlyle will take the fall for this one…although he wasnt given much to work with on the D end..and getzlaf was either hurt or was being a jackass this year..either way he wasnt good enough this year

either the players dont belive in RC’s system or Rc system is figured out by other teams..or the guys just tuned him out…

think we need a fresh approach…cuz we need not waste getzlaf, ryan and perrys good years

look at what dave tippet did in one year in the desert…goes to show you…when u have talent (the ducks do) and the right coach shit can turn around (we de need upgrade at D though)

2009-2010 Anaheim Ducks.."Hey at least its not crack!!"

by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 7, 2010 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

not happening if scott and teemu come back (cap space)

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

depends on what price scotty comes back for…and dont underestime crazy barstool bob..plus we got a surplus of forwards with lupul coming back

2009-2010 Anaheim Ducks.."Hey at least its not crack!!"

by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 7, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

6 mill the man aint taking a pay cut… hey he needs the medical bills.. lol

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

also razors for that bushy beard

2009-2010 Anaheim Ducks.."Hey at least its not crack!!"

by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Apr 7, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

He might have come back for less if we hadn’t brought in Lubo. Scotty can’t be the second highest paid player on your blue line. I think the cap is going up next year, and we will lose Wiz’s money. If we unload a Marchant, as well as a Lupul or Blake, we’ll have more than enough to upgrade the D and keep Scotty and Lubo.

by Daniel AC on Apr 7, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marchant doesn’t carry that high of a cap hit to make that much of a difference and I think he’s a good guy to have in the locker room. I think it’d be a miracle if Murray somehow found a way to unload Blake or Lupul for anything of value, but if Saku and Teemu came back would you really want to unload Blake after the chemistry that line developed? And let’s say Lupul get’s moved for next to nothing. I would be pretty upset that part of our return for Prongs was a waste, wouldn’t you? I think our forward core is set even if Teemu retires. I also think there’s more than enough cap space to sign a guy like Martin (if nieds retires) and/or a Mitchel type player.

by Natesaduck on Apr 7, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, when you combine Marchan’ts 1.5 with Wiz’s 2.75, you’re looking at a little over 4 million in cap space. That might be enough to get us Volchenkov when you add the million we gain in cap space when the cap goes up, which I heard it might when I was watching NHL on the fly.

Marchant is good for the locker room, but so are Koivu, Niedermayer, Selanne, Blake, and maybe the Defenseman we sign will be good for it too. I think we have plenty of veteran leadership, what we don’t have is money for the D help we desperately need.

If Koivu and Selanne come back, then we should consider keeping Blake. If not, then Lupul is younger, and has shown he can be a 30 goal scorer, and probably will be one when healthy and playing with the top line. I really liked his play and would hate to see him go, but such is life in the salary cap era. If Lupul does get traded, then we can see those acquisitions as part of the Pronger deal, or the cap space as part of the deal as well. Think of it this way: The Ducks unload Lupul at the draft for a second rounder and a prospect. Then use the cash to sign Volchenkov. That makes the return on Pronger = Volchenkov, Sbisa, two 1st round picks, a 2nd round pick, and a prospect. That’s a trade I can be down with.

by Daniel AC on Apr 7, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to agree with Daniel, Marchant is extraneous.

by yankeeken on Apr 7, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see your point with Marchant but I think he has a certain appreciation value from the organization. Plus, who else is going to score all the empty-netters without Rob here? Personally, I think the guy is unmatched. He can hit an empty net from 100+ feet out, yet still misses from two feet away. Heck, I dare you to find someone else in the NHL who has a knack for bouncing the puck off the glass, a stickblade, ball sack, and visor before finding it’s way past a professional goalie. You just don’t see that shit anymore, but Marchant finds a way. I’m still puzzled at how he found a way to deke Flower out of his jock then slide a backhander past the reigning cup net-minder. The guy is one in a million.

You make good points with Blake and Lupul. And while I also feel that having the two may be redundant, I can’t help but lean on the “what if” factor. What if Blake loses his chemistry with the two Fins (assuming they come back and are on the same line) or worse gets riddled with injuries? What if Lupul somehow needs another operation and the surgeon accidentally leaves his scalpel in his back, forcing him to miss extended time once again? Of course these are exaggerations, but I still don’t see our farm filling the void if we had only one of these two, then none due whatever might happen. I guess what I’m trying to say is that they may both be well overpaid for what they bring, but at second glance there may be more (security by means of depth) than meets the eyeballs.

by Natesaduck on Apr 7, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like depth as much as anybody else, but Lupul is a 4.25 hit, Blake is 4, Ryan will probably come in at 3.5-4, Getzy and Perry are 5.325 each. That’s almost 23 million for only 5 forwards. Koivu will come in at 3.5 if we keep him, maybe 4. Selanne should get a raise to 2.5-3, we owe him that. Now we’ve got Scotty’s 6 and Lubo’s 5.6. That’s 9 players making about 40 million dollars. Hiller makes it 44. That’s about 20 million to get spread over the 14 remaining players on the 23 man roster. Can it be done? Of course. Do we want to do it? I’m not sure.

We’ll see what happens.

by Daniel AC on Apr 8, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t underestimate the cupboard. Beleskey was always a grit depth forward with skating issues, but as of right now, almost all of our signed forwards in the cupboard have playmaking ability: Sharp, Bordson, Macenauer, Deschamps. We actually don’t have a lot of non-skill players in stock.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Apr 8, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

so who goes and who stays… blake or lupul… blake is 36 lupul is 25… hmmm but blake has chemistry so its a tough choice

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Puck and Buck stops here

As frustrating as this season has been as a Ducks fan, it is even more frustrating to read all these posts debating who is to blame for the teams failure to make the playoffs. It seems to me that the players are ultimately to blame, although injuries, suspensions, poor trades, and cap issues certainly impact the results on the ice as well. But the buck should stop with the players since, after all, they are the ones who are underperforming on the ice, making bonehead mistakes, and taking stupid penalties. I’m pretty sure that Carlyle is NOT instructing the players to do any of that so perhaps the players need to look at themselves in the mirror and ask if they played to the best of their abilities this season. I think that most of them, if they are honest, will have to say the answer is “No!”.

by Kimo31 on Apr 8, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed. But as someone who is a coach, albeit competitive speaking isn’t hockey, I find that attitudes trickle down, unlike money. If the people who run the team, the GM and coach, aren’t providing opportunities for players to be successful. If the GM doesn’t get the right players and they don’t produce the right chemistry for the coach, and the players see the coaches frustration, it affects the players ability to do their job properly. All I’m saying is that just like we try to teach people that stats don’t matter if the team loses, then when a team loses everyone in the organization who puts that team on the ice has to take some responsibility as well.

by Daniel AC on Apr 8, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

While I think coaches get fired in hockey rather unjustly, many simply because the players aren’t listening to them for the players’ own selfish reasons, sometimes it is the coach’s fault. You have to have some sense of your players, and I don’t think Carlyle had that this year. This was a group that was never going to respond to his shuffling, but he kept doing it, kept insisting on it. He kept skill players out of the lineup in favor of Troy Bodie. He leaned on the Olympians after the break. He turned the crease into Anaheim Idol with a you win, you start system. His mark on the team this year was just as significant as any one player, if not more. The mood in that locker room is not a phenomenon independent of Randy Carlyle.

When two or three players fail you, you can talk about trading those players, or maybe benching them. When everyone fails, you have to go higher in the chain of command, above the captain and into the coaches and GM. It doesn’t make sense to put it on the players if every single player not named Koivu is giving 30%. There’s something deeper going on there, and it probably has little to do with the players— it’s not like they all agreed to suck.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Apr 8, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just think the “knee jerk” reaction to a season like this would be to fire the coach and that lets the players avoid responsibility for their subpar performances. I think that for the Ducks to be an “elite” team that routinely makes the playoffs then they need long term stability at the top. The cap issues left over from Burke’s days as GM seem to be over so I would say give Murray and Carlyle another season to see if this season was a bump in the road and not the start of a trend. Of course if the Ducks start next season like they did this one, then maybe it would be time to change the messengers, if not the message.

by Kimo31 on Apr 9, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

it’s much tougher to ship off players, so something like what’s happening in Philadelphia, where the locker room is splitting into two camps, is clearly a player problem and not a coach problem. But since you can’t change the players as easily, you maybe hope to bring in a coach who can diffuse it.

With the Ducks, it’s becoming a coaching issue. He’s not clicking with this particular group. There’s a lot of players taking responsibility but not doing anything to fix it. Changing the coach is often the wrong move, but as Niedermayer said when Sbisa was sent down, sometimes sending someone home IS the message. That’s how you let the team know they’re failing and someone else will be punished for it. Creating instability in the locker room is sometimes the ENTIRE reason they fire a coach, not just part of it. I generally don’t support firing coaches, but this team isn’t trying to save anyone’s job.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Apr 9, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

LIKE THE GREEN DAY SONG… WAKE ME UP WHEN SEPTEMBER ENDS OR SUMMER FOR THAT MATTER

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Well said. Though I might wake up a few times (draft, FA, training camp) and hit the snooze.

by Natesaduck on Apr 7, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will probably watch some of the playoffs if the RedWings gets ousted early. I have not picked who I will be rooting for yet. To root for the Yotes is to root for NHL league to win and that is stupid. If I root for the kings I will be showering after every game. Sharks would have me if they would stop that hand movement thingy but also would need a shower.

Let's go Ducks.

by deb d on Apr 7, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

West: Vancouver, Phoenix as a dark horse (cause of Bryz)
East: New Jersey, Pens as a second choice

by Natesaduck on Apr 7, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

i would need a shower if i watched a single playoff game… ohh the irony of the yotes and kings in the postseason while sit on our couches and eat chips

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 5:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Us duckie fans should put our playoff bias up for sale.

Let's go Ducks.

by deb d on Apr 7, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hang on I can see a problem already, what is the RedWings win the bidding. Dang.

Let's go Ducks.

by deb d on Apr 7, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

HEY ISNT EVERYONE SICK OF THE CAPTAIN MARCHANT PERRY GETZLAF AND THE COACH ALWAYS SAYING WE WERE LAZY AND WE LET THEM COME BACK AND WE NEED TO WORK ON IT… this is what really pisses me off… plus we dont need marchant and he certainly doesnt help in the 3rd period or on the kill… um hello hes like a minus 17 or worse

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

um now since the etem kid is ranked #8 by central scouting we surely wont get him… need a bit more info on nino though.. would appreciate if arthur could write up a penalty kill on the dude

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 5:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I doubt Etem is 8th overall. Central Scouting ranks by region, and last I checked, ISS put Etem in the lower third of the top 30. I won’t PK kids until we have an idea of where we’ll be. I PK’d John Moore last year, he was there when the ducks picked and they passed, so my pk’s aren’t necessarily valuable

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Apr 7, 2010 6:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah but they are better than those biased ones from tsn that dont care bout the ducks… damn canadians

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 6:16 PM PDT reply actions  

But they like Scotty, Getzy & Perry.

Let's go Ducks.

by deb d on Apr 7, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats three and they are both canadian… hmm i wonder why?

by Albert K on Apr 7, 2010 6:30 PM PDT reply actions  

The goat should be the mgmt that let the team from last year walk away, or let it get traded away to then replace with this team. If they bring Carlyl back i hope no fans buy tickets next year also. I for one will be rootin for any team that plays the queens or the guppies

If practice makes perfect....
Yet nobodies perfect.....
Then why practice ???

by peteyweestro on Apr 7, 2010 7:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Even if it is the RedWings? Really? If so, you need therapy :)

Let's go Ducks.

by deb d on Apr 7, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I put this more on Murray than Carlyle. Murray asked Carlyle to build a castle out of matchsticks for the first half of the year. However, Carlyle did drop the ball leading deeper into the season as he kept shuffling lines and didn’t let the team settle into anything productive. I’m up in the air right now. I don’t think we should blow it all up, but I’m definitely not happy with Murray, and Carlyle needs to do some personal reflection this off season. If he gets off to a bad start next year, he’ll be fired for sure.

by Daniel AC on Apr 7, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

getting the business end of the You're-Being-Too-Negative stick

Just curious…is the “You’re-Being-Too-Negative stick” related to the Disco stick?

"I'm not a lady. I'm a DUCK!" - Connie Moreau, D2: Mighty Ducks

by Jen Neale on Apr 7, 2010 8:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I was gonna say switch but nobody here is from the south, then I was gonna say ruler cuz daniel and I both went to catholic school and Daniel saw me attacked with a ruler once. I settled on stick instead of paddle because it sounded less sexual at the time, but damn lady gaga has undermined me. shakes fist

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Apr 7, 2010 9:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

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