Bobby Ryan Offer
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 24, 2010 11:56 PM PDT
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PrintThe OC Register quotes Murray as "surprised" by Ryan's comments to the OC Register last week. Murray says that Kariya had no reason to be surprised, because he informed him of his intentions to sign him and Selanne-- oh, wait, sorry, wrong free agent head games. BOB Murray says that he made Ryan an offer of five years and somewhere between 20 and 25 million. Murray says he's in no hurry. An offer of 20 million would put Ryan below Lupul and an offer of 25 million would put him just under Getzlaf and Perry.
Yawn. X goes to the press, Y says he's surprised about what X said to the press. Ducks fans say "pay X what he's worth," but the issue between X and Y may or may not be money. Ducks fans later decide the player who was 'worth so much' is a money-hungry weasel. Could the number 9 be cursed? Maybe it should be retired just so we can avoid moments like this.
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if that’s what murray offered then bobby should be signed by now. if this is true bobby is a greddy fuck
exactly… i mean we haven’t exactly treated him like a franchise player over the years… damn you burke!!!!!
Nothing Bobby Ryan has done has indicated he’s a franchise player.
by Daniel AC on Jun 25, 2010 12:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
well when he’s second overall and has scored 31 and 35 goals you would have to guess he is a core part of the team
Perry waited until July 1st
and nobody’s out here disparaging him. The truth is we have no idea in hell how Bobby feels about being a Duck and we have no idea what Murray did offer him.
As Arthur says, this could be more about years than money.
Until everything shakes out, I’m just not sure it’s fair to lambast either the team or the player at this point. We only know what the press tells us.
by PhantomPretender on Jun 25, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Perry went to the press to say he was still waiting, but understood getzlaf was priority. he didn’t expose it for OCR like Bobby did. Unless you’re saying Stephens covers things more sensationally than Wood.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 25, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Hard to say
and I wasn’t around for the Perry negotiations. I’m just saying that I think we’re all parsing this situation based on our desired outcomes and personal feelings.
by PhantomPretender on Jun 25, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, that’s generally why you go to the media. either so management can say he’s a money hungry weasel or so the player can say he’s being undervalued and then have fans join that popularity contest.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 25, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
There have been so many rumors saying that Bobby want out of here and vice versa. If this offer has been made though then its all on Bobby to get it done. Hell it was on him before hand. Yeah the agent can hold things up but the agent works for the client. If Bobby said hey get something done by the end of the week you know there would be a contract in place. I don’t think that Bobby is a hands on person though when it comes to his contract. From all reports its more of a I’ll be in the gym let me know what happens kind of thing. If this type of offer has been made and this around where Bobby was asking then clean up the contract and throw some ink on it.
by Newport Rebel on Jun 25, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Silver!
Well, maybe Bobby is asking for a new nickname along with his contract since he really doesn’t seem to like “Silver”!?
And (of course) since Kariya is also a free agent on July 1st the rumors of his return to Anaheim are starting up again. Maybe Paul can buy the #9 jersey back from Bobby to make up for the hometown discount that Anaheim is trying to get from him?
Assuming the worst
That Ryan wants out of Anaheim, and his interest is in going to Philly, what do you all think of the idea of a trade package where the main moving parts are Ryan and Jeff Carter?
Obviously Ryan’s history as a Jersey kid, and connections to Bob Clark could be in play, as well as the rumors that have persisted about Ryan’s unhappiness.
I have ambivalence about trading Jeff Carter — in my opinion he’s been the best offensive player we’ve had over the last 2 years — a bit snake bit in the playoffs 2 years ago, but this year I draw no conclusions since he was nursing 2 broken post operative feet. I do think that if there was a place for Carter to come to, the Ducks would not be bad at all, as I think he’d thrive in the west where things seem to be a little more open to his style of play, and where he’d be reunited with Lupul, who had good chemistry with Carter where each put up their best numbers playing together.
What say you Duck fans?
(I’m an LA located Flyers fan FWIW).
Not a chance. Plus rumor mill is you guys are trying to move Carter for Jonathan Benier of the Kings.
by Newport Rebel on Jun 29, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
You're kidding right?
You don’t salary dump a guy who was 3rd in goals scored (46) 1 year ago, for an unproven AHL goalie. This is the type of deal that makes sense because you guys need centers (we have too many) and we need wings.
No I’m not. the rumor was you guys throwing a late pick in as well. As much as I hate to say anything nice about our friends to the north, they hit one out of the park with Benier. I actually think if you guys did that you would get the better end of the deal in the long run. That kid is going to a superstar goalie in a few years and he is NHL ready. He was lights out in the few games he was up in the NHL. He made the Sharks look foolish. He was AHL goalie of the year. Why the Kings didn’t call his ass up in the postseason I have no idea. Thank God LA is ran by idiots at times. Think is they now realize his value and they just put a ton of money into Quick. So much that its almost not possible to trade him to anyone else. There are very few teams that he couldn’t start for next year and I think the Kings will try to cash in on it. I know one Kings fan who I spoke with that would be pissed if this went through. He thinks that Benier will be a top 5 goalie in the league at some point. He is one propect I would love to see LA get rid of.
by Newport Rebel on Jul 1, 2010 5:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Rumors are rumors, but at no point would the Flyers have done a straight up trade for Bernier. Not that they didn’t want him, he’s one of a list of goalies the Flyers were interested in, but as good as Bernier looks, and I’m not denying that the Flyers were interested, there is just no way they would trade Carter for him alone. As part of a bigger package — perhaps.
The moving parts are good, but you guys gave Carter a hefty contract (5.5M salary i.e. more than Getzlaf) and he’s on his last year of that, so you would have to sweeten the deal with picks/prospects/etc. All in all, as far as needs, it’s a good trade. And I agree that from the story perspective, it would be good to see the hometown boy suit up in the P, but for a deal between a cap team and a budget team, you’ve got to help the budget team out if you’re taking the slightly younger player who hasn’t taken his first major injury yet.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 29, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Ducks GM Bob Murray said Bobby Ryan’s camp turned down five-year, $25M offer and another four-year offer.
Murray also expects James Wisniewski situation will head to arbitration. As for any more offers to Ryan, he said he’s “done for a while.”
There's nothing to see here. And nothing gazes back at me.
if bobby gets four years at 5M/year, then he gets everything he wants. He doesn’t have to play a single year past his UFA date and he doesn’t have to take a paycut to do it. Kind of unreasonable if you ask me. You gotta give to get.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jul 1, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
i wish we could get something from Philly from him. it would be nice to send the kid home AND get something back.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jul 1, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
It wouldn’t be impossible. They’ve got 5 guys making more than 3 million on that back end. Maybe a Carle or a Coburn as a key piece in a deal. I wish I knew more about their prospects, because that won’t work as a straight up trade and we won’t get another first rounder from them.
Plus, What the Hell is Vancouver going to do with all that D? They have 6 guys making more than 3 million and have 8 D not counting O’Brien. Something has to give.
I think Bieksa is already on the block, if he hasn’t been since last season already.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jul 1, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually liked the suggestion we’d get Carter. I mean, Ryan still has some cachet, nothing against Carle. I think we should get a guy with similar star potential, whether it be a Carter or Van Rimesdyk. I have no problem with putting Bobby in the flying P; I’d just like to get something similar back. we’re going to need scoring when our D matures.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jul 1, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
TSN says Gagne removed his no trade clause, though they make no mention of any kind of deal in the works. I suppose he might be another option. Too bad he can’t stay healthy
Gagne is actually as healthy as he’s been in years. He had various surgeries, and before the broken foot, the guy was playing as well as I’ve seen him play, prior to his concussions.
The story of how he came back from that is actually pretty amazing. He was dangerously close to retiring when he happened to see a local news report on a New Jersey doctor who has a therapy called prolotherapy, designed for people with chronic neck issues or whiplash. It basically saved the guy’s career and
He also started working out with Canadien strong man Hugo Girard at the advice of Briere, although I’m not sure if he’s continued with that. He also had some nagging sports hernias repaired.
I don’t think Gags is really that fragile — just unfortunate that he played through the era where the NHL was focused on getting the biggest players possible, and the rules favored clutch and grab. Even though he’s played for 11 years, he’s still only 29. Needless to say, most of us don’t want to see Gagne traded, but I think if someone does pick him up, they’ll be very happy. He’s our Teemu.
From Bob McKenzie in the Yahoo Free Agent chat
Hitch in Ryan negotiations, BTW, is that he wants three-year deal and Ducks want 4 or 5. Ducks have offered $5M per year but want term.
that’s a typo. he wants four years because that takes him to age 27 and free agency. OC Register reiterated that a couple days ago.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jul 1, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
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