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Armchair GM: Bringing Home O'Brien



DANIEL:

The Ducks had a fantastic day at the draft.  Bob Murray has asked the media not to compare Cam Fowler to Scott Niedermayer, but the offensive numbers and smooth skating means the whispers have begun.  Anaheim fans are probably already drooling over the prospects of a Sbisa-Fowler pairing in two years.  Still, the Ducks have enough talent to still be a playoff contender in the Western Conference, and Teemu has said he'll only come back if the Ducks prove they are committed to winning next year.  The biggest problem for Anaheim last year was a defense that lacked grit and, at times, quality decision-making skills.  The Ducks need to upgrade the D, and while there are some quality defenders on the free agent market, Anaheim will need to make a few trades in order to get some value on the blueline.  With that in mind, I propose this trade with the Vancouver Canucks

Anaheim gets:

Shane O'Brien

 

Vancouver gets:

Todd Marchant.  

Star-divide

On the surface, this probably doesn't seem like a very fair trade.  However, the Canucks window is about to get smaller.  The Sedins and Luongo are in their prime and victory will need to come shortly.  

Why it's good for Vancouver:

TSN's Scott Cullen points out that one of the biggest problems the Canucks have had is a lack of veteran leadership.  Marchant was patient and effective for the Ducks last year as one of the primary defensive forwards.  He played in tough defensive situations, and led the Ducks forward corp in shorthanded time on ice.  He pitched in a respectable 22 points, which included 3 shorthanded goals.  Imagine Marchant and Kessler on the same PK unit.  Todd can still get down the ice quickly.  Vancouver needs a guy who has played for a Cup winner.  That's Todd.  It's a 1.5 salary, at a 1.25 cap hit.  All signs point to Vancouver upgrading the D through free agency, after the recent Ballard trade.  This means money needs to be moved off the blueline.  Bieksa is a likely candidate, but that might not be sufficient.  O'Brien ran afoul of Alain Vigneault, and got himself benched for a stretch of games this season.  Aaron Rome is a more acceptable option as a 6th or 7th defenseman, which is what O'Brien would be if he stayed.  Ultimately, the Canucks need to move some D so they can get the free agent defenseman they want, and add some veteran leadership up front.  This trade solves both problems.

 

Why it's good for Anaheim.

The Ducks have a slight logjam at forward.  The desire to have Selanne and Koivu return combined with the emergence of players like Sexton, Beleskey and what will undoubtedly be an improved Sharp, means the Ducks need to start finding some minutes for the next generation while holding onto some fan favorites.  In the end, something's got to give.  If that's the case, it might as well give way by gaining us an upgrade on D.  O'Brien had his struggles last year, but he still managed a +15, with 112 hits and 52 blocked shots.  O'Brien may not be pretty, but he can kill penalties and clear the net.  I know Big Buff made him look less than ordinary at times, but Byfuglien is a rare power in front of the net.  Let's be honest, the Ducks need all the help they can get in terms of physicality on the back end.  O'Brien might not be pure Top 4 material, but he is the type of stay at home guy that would let Visnovsky wander up ice as often as he likes.  Even though he doesn't frequently play major minutes-- he only averaged 17 minutes a game --in 12 of his last 38 games he played over 20 minutes.  A competition between he and Brookbank for that Top 4 spot could only be beneficial for the Ducks, not to mention what it would mean to have two solid defenders like that as options on the PK unit.  He might seem like a cast off, but O'Brien should not be underestimated.  He once earned the Ducks a first round pick from the Tampa Bay Lightning.  He's still 6'3", 225 and physical, everything the Ducks need right now.  Also, his low price means the Ducks won't be completely handicapped in pursuing another defenseman in the free agent market.  That might be the type of good faith gesture that gets Selanne in a Ducks sweater for one last go with Kariya. 

As part of this deal, Shane O'Brien gets a shiny new contract.  It's a two year deal that will pay him 1.5 this year and 1.75 next year.  That will take him to 28; he'll be in his prime, and able to pursue a UFA deal.  I think he'll be OK with making the same money in order to get that kind of opportunity. It's not a huge risk for the Ducks, because Fowler, Sbisa, Clark and a few other should be more than ready by then. 

In the end, this is a deal that can be very beneficial to both sides.  It solves a couple of problems for both clubs.  It might not be the type of sexy move Anaheim fans would love right now, but it will be helpful in getting this team going in the right direction.

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I love it. As much as I do like Todd, you are right there is a log jam and we need to impove D or next year will be much of the same if not worse. Van. needs to get rid of Shane. He apparently is a cancer in the lockroom and needs to get a fresh start somewhere.

by Newport Rebel on Jun 29, 2010 10:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I’d probably piss myself if Vancouver was stupid enough to make this deal. Though, stranger things have happened (ie Fowler @ 12 & Etem @ 29). We’ll see

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by Natesaduck on Jun 29, 2010 11:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I couldn’t agree more with everything that is said here. Although it is much easier said and done, I could see this happening. As you pointed out, it makes pretty good sense for both teams. Anaheim might have to throw in a late round (5th or later) pick to sweeten the deal, but I’d still take it even at that. I love it and would be very happy if we could manage it.

by JasonF on Jun 30, 2010 6:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Honestly, I was just about to reply to Nate and suggest that a late round draft pick might push this deal over the edge. I still think it’s a need trade for the Canucks. They need depth forwards to compliment the money they’ve spent on the top 6, and if they don’t move a defenseman, they’ll probably have 6-7 guys on the blueline making a million or more since they want to take a run at one of the big free agent defenseman. That just can’t happen in the new NHL. O’Brien is a much more moveable piece, and, as this deal shows, he can get you something of value in return at a similar price.

by Daniel AC on Jun 30, 2010 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you threw in a late round pick it would be more realistic. But I still think there might be better options for the Nucks

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by Natesaduck on Jun 30, 2010 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was convinced Daniel’s next Armchair GM would be about trading Jason Blake to Edmonton for Sheldon Souray. I still think that’s a good idea, healed hand injury permitting.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 30, 2010 10:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Honestly, I never thought of that. It makes sense, I’m just wondering how interested Edmonton would really be. I know they need scoring, but I don’t know if Blake is the right answer. There’d have to be a few more moving parts, since it wouldn’t be very beneficial to Edmonton to engage in what is essentially a cash swap. Although the million+ they save in cap space might be enough incentive if they think they have a free agent who will actually sign with the team.

by Daniel AC on Jun 30, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, they can’t keep Souray, and his no trade stays in effect until July 1st, so he still has to review whatever they bring him. it’s a cap swap for them, and not much of a cash increase for us. They’re painted into a corner though; they can’t keep a guy who wants out that badly.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jun 30, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

good suggestion..like the fact your sticking out your neck…could work

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jun 30, 2010 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

What makes you say I’m sticking out my neck?

by Daniel AC on Jun 30, 2010 2:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Todd Marchant has trade value? Thats news to me.

I love I idea, but it doesn’t seem very likely.

by yankeeken on Jun 30, 2010 7:32 PM PDT reply actions  

He’s a veteran forward with an expiring contract who can be a key bottom 6 contributor. I think that’s trade value. I think with the new deals being made in the cap era, he has a little extra value.

by Daniel AC on Jun 30, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who replaces Marchant on the checking line? Chipchura? Carter? That’s a drop of on speed and smarts. But I definitely see your thinking.

I like O’Brien too (thought the ducks should have kept him), but how he fits in on a blue line that needs a more than anything a top pairing or two studs to anchor the top 2 d units

by cal-S- on Jun 30, 2010 10:09 PM PDT reply actions  

edit

no “a” before more

by cal-S- on Jun 30, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The more I look at it though

if baby ryan gets his 5 mil cap hit
the ducks are looking at about 17 mil of space to work with under the cap if you use last years payroll as a reference to what they’ll spend this year that leaves about 14 to sign
teemu and koivu (5.5 together), wiz (i’m guessing he is asking for at least 3) and fill our holes at the top pairings of d-men.

deals like yours will probably be the way the ducks stay competitive until hopefully their prospects pan out

by cal-S- on Jun 30, 2010 11:35 PM PDT reply actions  

The Canucks WERE looking for that center, but they paid top dollar for Malhotra instead of looking for a piecemeal fix.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jul 1, 2010 10:54 AM PDT reply actions  

I just saw that :(

I also read in the OC Register that it’s going to be a quiet day for Anaheim.

by Daniel AC on Jul 1, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

total speculation article in which NO ONE returned Stephens calls. Murray supposedly because he was on the phone all day. By that reasoning, you read MY article and heard it was going to be a quiet day for the ducks. Budget teams can’t bang with these prices, and the Ducks are probably looking to trade.

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Jul 1, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

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