"In the Backseat of a Volkswagen?" Your Syracuse Crunch Primer.
MAGICS:
Get ready, Ducks fans...it's time to get to know your new affiliate a little better! Think of this as a primer for this season, so as to avoid potentially embarrassing situations as the couple below find themselves in:
Funniest Blooper in Game Show History (via rodan44)
Wow. Awkward, no? That reminds me of a very unfortunate incident I once saw behind a Waffle House in a seedy part of Albuquerque when I was a younger man, but I don't want to talk about all that. In fact, forget I brought it up, and let's get to the task at hand. I thought that this might be a good time to give all of you a little bit of a primer on Crunch history, in the hopes that we can all get to know each other a little better. This is far more important than you might think for Crunch fans, for reasons we will explore in just a moment. The hope here is that if we know more about each other, we'll be in a better position to keep a good vibe going between the two fanbases. With that, here is your condensed version of Crunch History 101.
The Syracuse Crunch joined the AHL in the 1994-95 season, having relocated from Hamilton, Ontario as the top affiliate of the Vancouver Canucks. That first team featured future NHL mainstays Mike Peca and Scott Walker, along with crowd favorite John Badduke as the Crunch's first resident asskicker. When I tell you that John knew how to get down and do the do, John liked loved to fight:
John Badduke Climbs Penalty Box (via crunchsite)
Ahem.
From 1997 until 1999, the Crunch held a split affiliation with the Penguins and Canucks. This brief period is perhaps best known for the horrendous 18 win season of 1998-99. If I'm honest with all of you (and a slew of psychiatrists over the years) here, my liver never fully recovered. I suppose that's as good a thing as any to blame my disturbingly heroic capacity for alcohol consumption on, and, quite frankly, allows me to kick some psychological dirt over the true root causes of it all. You know what, forget I said anything...this is getting into a whole weird area here. Let's keep moving.
Starting in 2000, the Crunch hooked up with Columbus, which touched off a strange ten year relationship. It seemed like a good idea at first -- a new franchise would need to build through the draft for several years, and in the process, we thought, a good number of those prospects would develop right here in town. Boy, that almost sounds logical, doesn't it? Little did we know that Columbus would be so backward as a franchise that essentially anyone capable of walking upright would move right into their NHL mix, leaving Crunch fans wanting something better in an affiliate.
This, I think, is the part you should probably really read and reread, as what I'm about to say will give you a pretty good insight into who we are and where we're coming from. This is a franchise that has never been accustomed to winning anything. Going into a seventeenth season of existence, this franchise has made it past the first round of the playoffs exactly three times -- in 95-96, 01-02 and 07-08. Historically, this is a .500 hockey club.
Now, a lot of that lack of success can be chalked up to bad personnel decisions, poor attitudes in the locker room and underachieving players. Over the course of the last few seasons, a lot of the frustration that built up over the years came to the surface and boiled over with some questionable decisions made in Columbus. I think Nikita Filatov is a perfect example of the deterioration of the Syracuse-Columbus relationship: when Columbus was trying to make the playoffs down the stretch in the spring of 2009, they recalled Filatov. That's fine, but consider that for the rest of that season, Filatov never once set foot on NHL ice during a game. The rationale from Columbus was that it was a move designed to allow Filatov to "soak up the atmosphere" of a playoff race. Meanwhile, the Crunch finished the season two points shy of the final playoff spot in the North division.
As you can imagine, this was not a popular move among Crunch fans. When you have a potential blue-chip first rounder in your system, you'd be a fool to not let him develop. However, he needs to play in order to do that. The question, then, is why call the kid up and let him sit in the press box for a month? Well, the urban legend that sprouted up around the whole mess was that Filatov is a headcase, and his mother strongarmed the Columbus brass into the recall, using threats of packing him up and taking him home to Russia as leverage. How true any of that is or isn't is anybody's guess, but I can tell you that Columbus flew his mother over at least twice in that season, and she set up residence here in town for almost a month at one point. Take from that what you will.
With our outrage somewhat justifiable, you'd expect some kind of conciliatory gesture or at least a mea culpa from Columbus. Instead, we got nothing but bile. We only existed for the sake of Columbus, we were told, and we should be grateful for anything that we were given from the almighty Blue Jackets. It was even evident in that birdcage liner they call the Columbus Dispatch, with the word Syracuse always prefaced with the phrase "minor-league." That may not seem like much, but believe me, those little things count for a lot after a decade of shoddy treatment. For all of the years we were told that help was on the way but never came, for all the times we were told that what we had on opening night was all that we'd get for the rest of the season, for all of the years we were told to shut up and grab our ankles just once more...there was just no way that this relationship could have lasted any longer. True story -- in the weeks and months prior to last season's announcement that the partnership was over, a sizable percentage of season ticket holders (myself included) were planning to not renew for this season, simply because we were sick of being treated like garbage. Believe me when I tell you that the Ducks, in every sense, saved the Crunch. And for that, I thank you.
So, with that being said, what is it that we want? Simple -- we want a team that has a chance to win a championship. We're not asking for two dozen all-stars and to go 80-0 this season; we just want to see a team that can be in the mix next spring. I think we've proven our loyalty as fans over the years, and quite frankly, I think we deserve that championship. We're loyal to Our Guys (sometimes to a disturbing degree) and we'll support them with everything that we have. All we ask for in return is a respectable effort each and every night. Just give us a chance to believe in something, that's all.
Look, it's really quite simple in the end. We're loud. We're loyal. This is a town with very little going for it anymore -- there is very little future here for anyone with ambitions that extend beyond the city limits -- and in many ways, sports are the one thing we can hang our hat on these days. This is a place that once was, and is dying to once again be, a hockey town; all we need is the right team. Even though we've yet to put a single minute into the record books of the Syracuse-Anaheim partnership, something about this season feels different. This could very well be it. The buzz is here. The hope and potential is here. We're here, and we're waiting.
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Living in Vancouver, I was once pretty familiar with the Crunch when they were the Canucks’ affiliates… Ironic that even though it’s been a decade, the team hasn’t changed much from a success standpoint. Hopefully that changes.
(Like the Ducks, the Crunch also have a history of wacky jerseys too. I remember the old purple superhero jersey. That was interesting.)
For the uninitiated (including myself)
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 8, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Good God Arthur. That is aweful. Please make it go away.
by Newport Rebel on Sep 8, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
You say awful; I say match made in heaven
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 8, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s like Chris Rock says, “… but two crackheads could stay together forever.”
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 8, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
You know, I’d done pretty well for myself in forgetting that those abominations had ever existed. Then you had to go dragging that back up. No wonder guys wanted to get out of town as quickly as possible. Wouldn’t you if you had to dress in that getup in front of the general public? Jesus.
by MagicsJohnson on Sep 9, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
what year was it, though? Because if it was the year Vancouver had the yellow and orange V then I see it as a sign of solidarity. Like an AHL team saying, “We, too, will hire a blind three-fingered seamstress to make our jerseys.”
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 9, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I want to say the late 90s….maybe 97 or 98? As I recall, it was our third jersey…not like it really should have even been our thirtieth jersey. Ugh.
by MagicsJohnson on Sep 9, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
haha okay
well, if you like our jerseys or color scheme, you should be happy. HIstorically, it’s definitely had a history of trickling down

by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 9, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I want to apologize for bringing the ugly to this thread.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 9, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not defending Chris Chelios, but you can’t just put someone in the company of Mike Ricci willy nilly. Not with Brent Sopel and Ken Daneyko still walking the earth. Chris Chelios probably doesn’t even make the scratch list on the NHL all-ugly team.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 9, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t really tell the difference anymore. Mostly because I Googled their photos to double-check and now I’m legally blind.
You need some Visine and some Kayden Kross STAT
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 9, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
If Rick Zombo isn’t mentioned in this conversation, it has absolutely zero merit.
by MagicsJohnson on Sep 9, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
So what are the expectaions of Crunch fans for the Ducks and do you think, with what you know of us, if we can can meet those expectations? Fans over here are excited about the Crunch for sure. It seems like it has been years since we had a place to put our young ducklings in a place that could grow them. Iowa was not that place.
Well, I think that generally speaking, we expect to be at least competitive. Perhaps not to the level of winning the Calder Cup every year, but at least to make the playoffs and get out of the first round for a change. In the bigger picture, I think that’s a pretty modest goal, and probably the most logical first step for the moment. I don’t know if anyone here is realistically expecting 20 all stars on the ice every night (and if they are, they shouldn’t) but to be in the mix in April and May would be wonderful.
Do I think that will happen? Yeah, I do. Contrary to what our local hack may write in his column, I don’t get too lathered up over the lack of a proven veteran goalie or not having Free Agents X, Y or Z on the roster right now. I understand that with very little frame of reference to work with with the guys we’re going to have playing together, you have to first see what works and what doesn’t. This league is a lot different from the NHL, in that it isn’t as common here to see guys on the same team for 4, 5, 6 years in a row. Turnover is a fact of life down here, and you have to contend with that. On the flip side, you can’t immediately dismiss an entire roster as not being viable without at least seeing how this guy works with that guy on his line, or how these two defensemen pair up on the ice.
by MagicsJohnson on Sep 9, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d really like it if the coaching staff actually gave lines to develop and then be willing to make a change if something isn’t working. Yates had this knee-jerk reaction of changing things too soon, but then at the same time he also let problem lines fester for too long. I seem to remember a line with Plekhanov not changing until it was much, much too late. I also seem to remember lines involving players like Aulin that were great together but that he—for some unknown reason—tore apart after a few games.
I guess I like consistency, but only when it benefits the team as a whole. So hopefully the Ducks have had a great eye for the coaching staff they’ve put here to be able to handle that load.
Well we do have a loaded cabinet when it comes to prospects as individuals. With all the turmoil of our AHL affiliates we haven’t really got to see all of our guys “under one roof” so to speak. We are all kind of wondering if they can all play together and Duck fans really hope this works well for you guys. When I was watching the prospects camp here in Anaheim a month or so ago I was excited by how many damn good hockey players we have coming up. Now if we can sign DaCosta shit we are money.
Ok another question. Are there any prospects in the Ducks system that you or the fan base is excited about coming to the Crunch?
by Newport Rebel on Sep 9, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I know that I would be downright giddy to see a Cam Fowler or Emerson Etem pass through town at some point in the future, and I’ve heard nothing but good things about Nick Bonino and Jake Gardiner. I doubt either of the first two would spend much time, if any here in town, but I’d sure like it if they did.
Word on the street is that Shawn Weller is coming in on a tryout deal for camp, as well. Not that he is exactly a prospect, but it’s another name in the mix.
by MagicsJohnson on Sep 9, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw both Etem and Fowler in camp this year. If they do show up with the Crunch then those guys may be the players that your town needs to heal into a strong hockey town once again. Wow are they good. Etem is already loved here (hell he is a hometown kid) and everyone is praying that Fowler be the second coming of Scotty.
by Newport Rebel on Sep 9, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
That sounds great to me! However, the asinine age rules for the AHL mean that they probably can’t be here this year. Sucks.
by MagicsJohnson on Sep 9, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah the AHL really needs to cut that shit out. Hell its even fucking up my Be a GM in NHL 11 and when that happens we got problems. One guy you should look out for is Matt Clark. Guy looked really really good in camp this year. Man has he become a good d man. Still not ready for NHL time but is getting close and with a little more work can be there in a year or two.
by Newport Rebel on Sep 9, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Fowler turned 18 December, so he only has one more mandatory CHL year. He’s kind of chomping at the bit, though, as you’d expect of any projected Top 5 pick. Etem turned 18 in June, but I actually think he’s the kind of player who has a way to go, so I think he might need some AHL time even when his WHL time is done in two years.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 9, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
“soak up the atmosphere” of a playoff race
The Ducks have done that with their standard Black Aces recall, and even keeping Logan MacMillan from his initial minor league assignment to let him generally soak up the pro atmosphere. But they were also very respectful of Portland’s needs when the Pirates were a really good team.
Also, ‘95 vintage Peca was one of the nastiest sub 6-foot hockey players I’ve ever seen. Teemu knows.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 8, 2010 10:13 PM PDT reply actions
I could be wrong here, but I think what annoyed us the most—and probably didn’t happen with your situations—was that Filatov so obviously wasn’t there to contribute anything. They had him sitting in a folding chair in the middle of the locker room because they didn’t have space for him. The coach had said publicly that Filatov didn’t fit into his plans and he didn’t have any idea what he was going to do with him. Not having Filatov on the team didn’t doom the Crunch’s playoff hopes—a horrible December with only one win the whole month pretty much did that—but it didn’t help, either. And that’s the rub—we hardly ever got any help.
Honestly, even when CBJ did help, it was almost like they threw us a tiny shoe-string lifeline and then Crunch some how managed to use it on their own. For instance, I’ll love Karl Goehring until I die, but even I didn’t expect that Mighty Mouse was going to put the team on his shoulders and help to drag it almost kicking and screaming to the playoffs. He didn’t do it on his own, but it sure felt like it some nights. So when CBJ threw him to us as a bone during 07-08, we really didn’t expect that one signing was going to help turn the season around. Sometimes their half-baked schemes worked…most of the time, they didn’t.
I don’t think the Ducks have ever used “soak up the atmosphere” as subterfuge, no. But based on the Crunch fans’ frustrations, I thought you might find it more disturbing that the Ducks actually believe in the value of soaking up the atmosphere from the press box. I think they believe in the value of playing more, but when I read the Filatov story, I thought to myself that it wasn’t something the Ducks were ABOVE or anything. I suppose it’s hard to refuse a persistent stage mom much of anything.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 9, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s a valid point, to be sure. For us down here, I think the thing that made it so bitter at the time was that despite getting little to no help from Columbus in making our own playoff run, the Crunch were still right in the hunt for that last playoff spot until, I think, game 77 of 80. It really went right down to the wire.
Now, that isn’t to say Filatov being on the ice would have won us the Cup that year, or even that it would have meant getting into the playoffs. Still, you’d like to think that having your most talented player available would have meant something, you know?
As far as the whole deal with his mother goes, I’m of a split mindset. I can empathize with the kid in some ways, being 18 and having to do for himself for the first time. However, I moved to Paris on my 18th birthday (don’t ask) and I managed to survive on my own. God knows I didn’t have guaranteed millions of dollars in my pocket or a cadre of people looking out for me like he did, either. In that respect, F that guy. Suck it up. His mother was brought over at least twice that I know of that season (once around Christmas for a month and again in Feb/March, as I recall) to basically give him some comfort. It’s really not much of a stretch to see how many problems that could have created from a hockey front office perspective.
by MagicsJohnson on Sep 9, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
MagicsJohnson, I have a feeling you will be very pleased with how Anaheim treats the Crunch this year. I get the sense that our management realizes the importance of having an AHL affiliate and they will use it to their advantage.
Here’s to a great and hopefully long-lasting relationship with the Crunch!
PS: Does anyone know how long Anaheim has announced Syracuse to be our affiliate for? I get the sense this can be a great partnership for years to come.
There's nothing to see here. And nothing gazes back at me.
Well if we are moving ECHL teams to be closer to the Crunch then you have to think that Ducks brass like what the Crunch bring to the table and they see a long term relationship with them.
by Newport Rebel on Sep 9, 2010 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Disturbing? 0_0
We’re loyal to Our Guys (sometimes to a disturbing degree)
What? You mean dedicating an entire off season and half of a regular season to getting one single defenseman back on the team is disturbing? You wound me, Magic!
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It’s really too bad Chris MacFarland stopped answering my e-mails. They got quite colorful towards December.
Er, right then…
By the way, in the whole Columbus kerfullfle, you cannot forget the time the Dispatch published that the AHL is only an exhibition league, so why should Columbus and/or its fans waste any time on us. That was a beauty, right there. And it’s also a beauty that I can’t seem to find anymore…interesting, that.
God, how could I forget that? I think I broke my own record for obscenities in a post after that.
That really was another example of the FU treatment exhibited by Columbus and its fans/media. When we say that Columbus just didn’t care, believe us…they just didn’t care.
by MagicsJohnson on Sep 9, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
And for the record, I seem to recall you being elated once you got to talk to Dan Smith for the site!
by MagicsJohnson on Sep 9, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully Ferguson and McNabb can keep wheeling better talent through the Syracuse and get a new feeling going there…god knows we have some talent coming through, and our excitement is they could play on the same team for a change…
All we want is a symbiotic relationship!
sob
Seriously, though…we don’t mind being a developmental farm. We WANT to develop. Desperately. We know our job. But we wouldn’t mind a bit of winning along the way…and in turn, hopefully, that will help out the Ducks. We need confidence on all levels!
I think the Ducks are showing some faith. They could easily have sent Palmieri to Guelph, and I half-expected them to do it, but I’m happy they trust the kid and the Crunch enough to make the pro jump now. He and Mitera will probably see more time in Syracuse than any of our CHL first rounders.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 9, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
And you know, Palmieri might be one of those guys like Nazem Kadri was for the Leafs last year; the kid who is almost too good for one level, but not quite good enough for the next. I hope he thrives here this season, but whether he scores 50 or 10, he’ll absolutely be better for it in the long term. It’s nice that the Ducks seemingly recognize that and are thinking big picture, as Columbus was almost always in such dire need of talent that anybody with the potential of being a full time NHLer was hotshotted right up there without a second thought. Honestly, the only guys I can think of over the last few seasons who actually developed here before going on to a full time gig are Derrick Brassard and Andrew Murray. Both were here for at least one full season, and they were all the better for it. We need more of that long term thinking.
by MagicsJohnson on Sep 9, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I think size is going to come into play for Palmieri, but he’s pretty ripped, so I don’t see building strength as an additional concern. He’ll just be trying to adjust and learn the system. I think the Ducks still think long term. Under the new CBA, a lot of teams have rushed kids out of the AHL or skipped the minor pro development altogether, but McNab is old school and so is Murray.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 9, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
One b guys not two. Who the hell gets that wrong?
by Newport Rebel on Sep 9, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Donovan fans of course. :)
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 9, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know what you are talking about. Moving on….
by Newport Rebel on Sep 9, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
what are you, a cowboys fan? who in california hates McNabb? those chunky soup commercials were awesome.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 9, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
oh yeah, I remember now. Welcome. Everyone’s saying we’re going to win the West, meaning we will again go 8-8
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 9, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
For what it’s worth, if you’re interested in further insight about the preseason vibe out here, you can check out my season preview over at my site. It might explain in a little more depth what’s doing, and how I think things are shaping up.
NHL 11
Has the AHL license increased Crunch-fan interest in EA’s NHL series over the last few years? I used to work in the industry, and I’m genuinely interested in how that’s gone over, as the excitement in CHL cities now seems to be major.
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 9, 2010 9:58 AM PDT reply actions
Also, because I’d buy an 8-bit game for $60 if it had NCAA hockey logos
by Arthur from Anaheim Calling on Sep 9, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know too many gamers, but I know that it sure is easier now than it used to be, when I had to wait for someone to develop one of those downloadable add-on deals to edit rosters and what not. It’s nice to see the league get some recognition, that’s for sure.
by MagicsJohnson on Sep 9, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Go Crunchies!
"Ridin’ The Meat Train & Dreaming of Jack’s Johnson All Summer Long!"
http://www.battleofcali.com/
Just wondering… if you played for the Crunch and was named captain, would your nickname be “Captain Crunch”?
Unless you’re Jamie Pushor, then it’s Captain Syphillis. (allegedly)
I guarantee you that all the Crunch fans reading this are smiling and nodding approvingly.
by MagicsJohnson on Sep 9, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions

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