From the Editor: You're Kidding?! The Ducks Are 30th!
If you haven't heard, Columbus won in a shootout on Tuesday night. With those two points, they leapfrogged the Ducks in the standings, leaving Anaheim in the cellar of the NHL. I partially blame myself for the Ducks being in last place. I became entirely too used to winning with the post-lockout iteration of Anaheim's hockey team. A club, up to this point, that had missed only one playoff series since their re-birth.
In my mind, it's like the Mighty Ducks were only a movie, not an expansion franchise that struggled on and off for years. I distinctly remember several times in high school where a teenage, brooding Jen would stomp downstairs only to be greeted by her dad's question of, "How'd they do?" It seemed like night after night I would answer, "They lost - again." I thought those days were gone like Disney and my teenage years. The team had a new name, a new look, and an owner that was committed to do what it takes to win. After that 2005-2006 season, I expected this team to win, and had no reason to believe that they couldn't.
What the hell happened? Why did everything go so incredibly wrong?
The loss of Brian Burke to Toronto was - and is - still felt throughout the organization. I remain to this day semi-obsessed with Brian Burke. Of course I loved Burkie for his ability to put together a Stanley Cup winning team, but it wasn't until after he was gone did I realize how much more he meant to the franchise as a whole. He built a team with a clear identity. He injected the word "truculence" into our regular vocabulary. He was vocal and brought a spotlight to Anaheim that wasn't shaded by mouse ears. Later we found out he would literally fight for the franchise.
Most importantly though was the voodoo Burke had over the Samuelis. He got them to open their wallets and fund this team to the max. In the Cup year, the salary cap was $44M and the Ducks spent between $40M - $42M. Perhaps spending $42M is tolerable but spending close to $64M (current cap) is unthinkable? I am not a billionaire and can't begin to fathom that thought process.
What is curious though is that Henry Samueli isn't making any money without the Ducks making it far into the playoffs. In business school they taught us to make money you need to smartly spend money. Does setting an internal cap of $54M help to give the Ducks the best shot at making the playoffs, let alone setup a deep enough run to break even? Corey Perry isn't going to be HeMan every year. So to be able to compete with the big boys, the Ducks have to spend the money to bulk up the team. Prospects will continue to be key in the franchise's growth, but we can't reasonably expect that another Kid Line full of future super stars (Perry, Ryan Getzlaf, and Dustin Penner) are going to strike twice in the near future.
Even if the Samueli's spend to the cap, do we have enough faith in Bob Murray to make the right decisions? He let Beauchemin walk only to get him back at a higher cost. Then again, he did trade-off major bust Ryan Whitney for Lubomir Visnovsky. When most of us were certain that he wouldn't fire Randy Carlyle, he did, and replaced him with Bruce Boudreau. Bob Murray certainly isn't Brian Burke. He is quiet and shies away from the spotlight, only speaking when absolutely necessary. We don't know what he's thinking, and we sure as hell have no idea what his plan is now that absolutely rock bottom - so low they could send us to the AHL - has been reached.
Does he go back to the market and start to listen to offers again on Bobby Ryan? With the exception of a few, the idea of that gave most of us heart palpitations the first time around, but instead the coach was fired. What now? I think it would be a monumental mistake to send off someone that all 29 other teams are slobbering to get their hands on. If you trade Bobby, who is going to take his place that will get the Ducks out of this hole (assuming that's the goal)? Kyle Palmieri, the AHL stud that can't find the net in the NHL? Is there anyone out there that can even help the Ducks NOW? I can't believe I'm saying this, but I don't think my favorite non-Duck Zach Parise could help us without Ryan.
I don't want to believe that all is lost. It will take a Tim Tebow-like miracle to get the Ducks to 8th in the west; however, getting to 8th should be the Ducks only focus right now. This upcoming off season is going to be a s@#t storm that will ultimately define the franchise for the next few years. There is no sense in starting to prep for the hysteria halfway through this season. They need to do what they can to make Anaheim an attractive option to the upcoming free agent class, and that starts with getting ahead of Columbus.
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We couldn’t attract UFA’s when we were 4th in the west. I don’t see a difference, i also don’t see any change in the ridiculous contracts handed out during free agency that will be more attractive to players than what we offer. We’ll offer smart contracts that just won’t be interesting.
And the only way we make it to 8th is by not losing 17 more games. I just can’t see that happening. If we get hit with the injury bug one more time especially, and this time to more key players, we’re screwed. This is a fragile team, and it’s a broken team. We might piece together a winning streak, but one bad loss and we hit the nightmare again.
If we do somehow make it, it’ll be the stuff of miracles. The stuff you see in movies. But realistically, we’re looking at an early postseason, but probably a good enough finish to make sure we pick around 10th-14th in the draft.
Well NJ had 18 points by this time last year and ended with 81…. I seem to recall them playing GREAT hockey to get even there. Math tells us we need to win 80% of our remaining games to get to our point totals last year.
10-14th?
Damn I guess you’re predicting a pretty good finish for us. At this point I don’t know what would turn this team around. I don’t think you should touch the forwards. I’d rather see us trade for a center and then go all out on a defenseman. Because honestly this team needs an all-star defenseman so badly right now. Oh Lubo, when are you coming back? And when you do, would you mind reminding Lydman how to play defense again?
by Kevin Riach on Dec 13, 2011 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
I’m on board. The more I read about him, the more he seems like the next Stamkos/Crosby/Ovechkin kind of player.
And I dont want Murray to blow up the forwards either.
Nail on the second line with Etem and Holland. Could be a badass kid line
by Newport Rebel on Dec 14, 2011 1:50 AM PST up reply actions
I fear that the Ducks will go on a tear later this season and end up just outside of the playoffs, like 9th or 10th in the West. That would be worst case scenario. Either work the miracle to finish 8th or just give up the season now and get a high draft pick.
Fight on!
EMAW!
My fear exactly
Though this year’s top 14 is gonna be special…well…I think only top 5 would make up for this terrible year. I was aggravated to no end that we almost made the playoffs in 2010 but ended up picking 12th (also if Philly lost the shootout against New York, we would’ve been picking 11th and 12th). That was eased by us getting to pick Fowler at 12, and obviously since we had him ranked 3rd overall we wouldn’t have gotten anything other than him if we had a higher pick.
But 2010 draft luck was just that…luck. If Fillip Forsberg, or Matt Dumba, or Alex Galchenyuk fell to 12th, I would be doing backflips and hitting my head on concrete because I can’t even do a backflip on a trampoline. The point is we can’t be safe with any propsect pick and there’s several tiers of prospect that can be had at certain top postitions, and frankly being outside of ten…hell even 8…you hit a third tier and don’t get as much value back for your terrible season. I mean, obviously all these players develop differently…so we have no way of knowing. But the talent level after 8 is slightly lower.
I see it like this in the current top 14
Tier 1 (superstar): Yakupov, Grigorenko, Murray (picks 1-3)
Tier 2 (NHL ready talent with star potential): Forsberg, Dumba, Galchenyuk, Trouba, Subban, (4-8)
Tier 3 (probably not stars, but should be good) Rielly, Gaunce, Girgensons, Reinhart
I think everyone knows that after WJC, we have a better idea of who belongs in the top 14…but either way I’d say tier’s one and two shouldn’t change much…they’re all dynamic players who will be NHL stars. I’m not saying go for broke and try to get Yakupov…but I really hope this team doesn’t do the whole barely make the playoffs thing again…it might turn me off even more.
I do a lot of draft research…that’s how bad this year has been…
And you can take Subban off our boards
We are pretty stacked with goalie prospects.
by Newport Rebel on Dec 14, 2011 1:52 AM PST up reply actions
Subban is the number one goaltender in the OHL over John Gibson and Jack Campbell.
He’s the only tender under 2.00 GAA (1.95) and over 94% save percentage. I’d gladly trade Bobkov to take on Subban and have a Subban-Gibson duo.
Also. I’m sure Sather has had a few drunken nights whenever he watched Fowler play.
Yeah I still wonder why the fuck they went with McIlrath
Maybe they felt bad that Scotty had just hung them up and they were trying to help us out. Thanks Rangers.
by Newport Rebel on Dec 14, 2011 2:10 AM PST up reply actions
Also
I wonder how many times the NYR have said to themselves “Shit we so should have taken Fowler. What the fuck were we thinking?”
by Newport Rebel on Dec 14, 2011 1:54 AM PST up reply actions
Yakupov looks absolutely filthy. Not many Russians come through Anaheim. We did sign Fedorov and used to have Dmitri Mirinov, who was a beast btw. Tverdovsky was from Ukraine, but played for the Russian national team so idk if he counts. The last young Russian prospects we had were Smirnov and Chistov. Neither of them played well when they were here. We will see what happens with Bobkov. Yakupov could definitely break the mold if we got him. Idk if I will ever be able to root for the Ducks to lose, but if this guy is everything he is said to be I might have to learn. Nevermind, I just tried for like 10 seconds and it was to hard. Go Ducks!
Used to go by "ramsrnumerouno" until I realized I only post about the Ducks...hooray hockey and Let's Go Ducks!!
by HatrickSwayze on Dec 14, 2011 1:48 AM PST up reply actions
There are still over 50 games. That is A LOT of drinking man.
Used to go by "ramsrnumerouno" until I realized I only post about the Ducks...hooray hockey and Let's Go Ducks!!
by HatrickSwayze on Dec 14, 2011 1:56 AM PST up reply actions
Just order a barrel from JD
Sure its a grand but its also like 30 – 40 gallons. Should get you to the trade deadline.
by Newport Rebel on Dec 14, 2011 2:05 AM PST up reply actions
haha thanks I’ll keep all those in mind
Used to go by "ramsrnumerouno" until I realized I only post about the Ducks...hooray hockey and Let's Go Ducks!!
by HatrickSwayze on Dec 14, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
I passed the drinking stage awhile ago with this team
Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy drinking, but I reserve getting drunk over a sporting event to teams that have expectations. Now I’m just mostly numb when the Ducks lose, still have some disappointment to stamp out though.
Fight on!
EMAW!
Nothing can make that disappear except a first overall pick :P
Seriously if we miss this year and get anywhere lower than 6 in the draft…I’m going to drink all summer long…
A first overall would be great
Every team has its ups and downs. First overalls sure do help getting things back on track. Look at Edmonton. They are a pretty good team except for the goalie situation. Remember the Pens were the whipping boys of the east until they got Sid. The first overall can make everything better.
by Newport Rebel on Dec 14, 2011 2:09 AM PST up reply actions
Haha exactly can you imagine our future? With guys like
Yakupov
Getzlaf
Perry
Ryan
Fowler
Hiller
Etem
Sbisa
Schultz
Gibson
Holland
Palmieri
Vatanen
DSP
Macenauer
I like that sound of that to be honest.
Vatanen is pretty superfluous with guys like Schultz and Fowler getting the lion’s share of PP time.
Hey Sami is a Lubo like player and if just once we can get a “Vote for Sami” add, it is worth it.
by Newport Rebel on Dec 14, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
As a Ducks fan, I’m not expecting a #1 overall pick. I’m pretty sure we’ve never had one in our entire history. I do remember what it’s like to be a losing team, and frankly this still can’t compare to the Page years. I do however wonder how Murray still has a job.
What sucks the most about this year is that the team had expectations
Underachieving is so much more painful than having a bad season when the team is predicted to be bad. Marchant is pretty much the only significant player the Ducks lost off of last year’s squad that finished fourth overall in a very tough conference, yet the dropoff in all areas is overwhelming. That doesn’t make sense on a team where the biggest stars are young and just entering their primes. Maybe Hiller/Emery/Ellis, Lubo, Lydman, Perry and Teemu overachieved enough last season to hide all the flaws with this team.
Getting our ass handed to us when there was no talent on the roster outside of Kariya and Selanne was one thing. We didn’t watch the games to see championship hockey, we watched to see those two terrorize the other team. I’ve always hated losing, but it was more bearable when the most electric duo in hockey was on our team. Playoff berths were not expected, so losing didn’t suck as much. It’s much more awful watching a team with such talented players make the same stupid mistakes night after night. At least back in the young days of the franchise, losses were caused more by lack of talent than mental errors and apathy.
You’re right about never having a #1 pick, Bobby Ryan at #2 overall is the highest ever pick for the Ducks.
Fight on!
EMAW!
by Shackleford on Dec 14, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
We haven’t had a #1 overall. We should have had Sid but we got screwed on that one. The Ducks have never really been front runners though for the first overall. We are finally getting there.
by Newport Rebel on Dec 14, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
History Repeats Itself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Anaheim_Ducks_seasons
You look at the Ducks list of seasons and you see it’s feast or famine with these guys until the Randy Carlyle era.
We have a bunch of did not qualify for the playoffs and then we get in and win the first round we ever had in 96-97.
Then did not qualifiy’s with a first round exit to the Wings no less thrown in and we get to the friggin Stanley Cup Finals in 02-03 with that magical team led by Mike Babcock!
To close out the funky years we did not qualify before the lockout.
Since the lockout, as Jen rightly pointed out, we have been used to winning! But even then it was feast or famine. Either a first round exit or we go deep or we just don’t make it at all.
All that to say, unfortunately for Teemu (Free him please!) I think we are in for one of those did not qualify rough patches, but there’s no saying it’s going to be a long drought like we’re the Kings or something. I could totally see a complete breakdown this year and then see all the kids lead us to the SCF and hopefully the Stanley Cup itself next year.
THAT IS WHAT IS RAD ABOUT BEING A DUCKS FAN!!! We’re not the Kings or the Sharks ;-) We know how to lose, but it is in our DNA to also win!

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