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Selanne's Emotional Return to Winnipeg Marred By Controversial Goal




Teemu Selanne is the perfect example of what a professional athlete should be, regardless of the sport. He's accessible to fans, loyal to the organization, genuinely loves to play the game, humbled by his own success, and ecstatic for his teammates'. With that in mind, the reception he received for his first return to Winnipeg since the 1996 trade to the Mighty Ducks is no surprise. In true Selanne fashion, he soaked it all in with a coy smile and many "thank yous" along the way.

Many fans in attendance donned the Jets original jerseys with Selanne's #13 on the back. Mixed amongst them were Selanne's wife and four children. They beamed as the patriarch of the family was constantly cheered throughout the game (even as his teammates were booed). Based on the reaction to Selanne alone, you would have thought it was a Ducks home game, but even the denizens of Honda Center aren't that loud. This isn't a knock on our fans. It's a point that's made to show just how lucky we are to have spent a majority of Selanne's career right along with him. We're just used to him being there. Winnepeg had barely three years with him and it's like he spent his entire career there. Although the Ducks lost the game 5-3, the media made Selanne the 3rd star of the night just so he could do what he said he never got a chance to - say "good bye".

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Game Highights:

Stick-tap to Dave at Illegal Curve for this post game audio of Perry, Ryan, Getzlaf, and Boudream (a gem), and audio of Teemu's post game presser. Nice to know The 'Peg is allowing bloggers into their media ranks.

GOOD:

-- When the Ducks went down 0-2 in the first, they didn't give up as they had multiple times earlier this season. Who else would get the scoring going but the man of the night, Teemu Selanne. Followed up by a guy that could've had a hat trick tonight had his "try to convince everyone the puck went in the net" celebration of a goal that wasn't worked, Corey Perry. It's earlier than last year, but it's time for Perry to put on his HeMan undies and destroy again.

-- While it wasn't a 60 minute effort, I was really impressed by the Ducks tenacity. They didn't get down when the controversial goal by Andrew Ladd was scored (more on that later). They kept pushing and pressuring. I like seeing that; however, sometimes I think they're hyper-focused on the pressure that they forget to play defense.

-- Best game for Nick Bonino and Kyle Palmieri since both of their call ups. For Palmieri, it seemed that having Bonino on the ice with him made him more confident. Bruce Boudreau said the call up of Bonino was specifically for the benefit of Palmieri. Instead of having the monumental task of playing with Perry and Ryan Getzlaf, he played with a guy that he knows he can produce with. This won't make Crunch fans happy, but the Ducks should call up Patrick Maroon as well. The three played together in Syracuse and found much success. (I also want to incorporate Alex from CHGA's nickname for them into our posts - The Palroonino Line.) Remember that one time we brought up an entire line from the minors? They did alright. I believe they were called The Kid Line (Perry, Getzlaf and Dustin Penner).

-- Of all the players we've swiped off wires, Niklas Hagman has been a great addition. Before you start to complain, yes, he missed the net a lot versus Chicago, but is that worse than Andrew Cogliano missing almost all the time? He had another goal tonight, and I believe is riding a five game scoring streak.

-- Ryan, Perry, Getzlaf, and Selanne combined for 18 the teams 36 shots on goal. It's never a bad thing to have those guys shooting a lot.

-- I have been extremely critical of Getzlaf lately, but he had a pretty solid night tonight. He assisted on each of Perry's goals (natch), had a 67% faceoff percentage, 4 shots on goal, tied Andrew Gordon with a team high 3 hits, and lead the team with 23:55 minutes of ice time. With Koivu out, he needs be better than average each night. Keep up the good work, Getz.

BAD:

-- Bobby Ryan and Lubomir Visnovsky had pretty bad games, even though they had 5 and 4 shots on goal, respectively. Both men also had 3 giveaways each. Bobby didn't redeem himself until the 3rd period when he decided to wake up. I was hoping that a fully healed Lubo would get him back to where he was last year, but it appears he's just back to where he was earlier this season. Yikes.

-- Dan Ellis was marginal verging on bad tonight. The final goal by Zach Bogosian is what I like to call a "Typical Dan Ellis Goal". He is good for at least one of these every single game. It looks like it should be the easiest stop in the entire world, something very Goaltending 101, and he muffs it.

-- Of the team's 14 giveaways, the defense were responsible for 8 of them.

UGLY:

-- Andrew Cogliano might be a worse center than Bobby Ryan. 3 wins and 10 losses on the face off dot for a whopping 23%. I am beginning to lose patience with Cogs. (Note to Bob Murray: Lubo has been your only winning trade with Edmonton. You can stop now.)

-- Multiple times on here, I've said that I don't like it when we complain about bad calls or those that are based specifically on reputation alone. I run this site, so I get to be hypocritical when I want to - here we go! Winnipeg's fourth goal scored by Andrew Ladd was bullshit. Flip this situation around and put Corey Perry in where Nik Antropov was. Not only would that goal waived off, reviewed and confirmed as no-goal, but Perry would get a minor for goalie interference. I got into an argument on Twitter that any goals where there is the slightest bit of doubt in the refs mind is reviewed. Perry's fake celebration goal was reviewed and it was pretty clear the puck was hidden under Steve Chris Mason's butt. I am aware that goals cannot be reviewed for penalties, but the puck hitting off the foot of Ladd can be reviewed. I don't know what difference that would have made, but the whole situation was screwed up. I should write a strongly worded letter to the NHL.

End of rant.

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I would include Glass’ cheap hit on Beauchemin in the ugly category, screw that no talent hack

by dontmesswiththestache on Dec 18, 2011 1:05 AM PST reply actions  

Cogs has been an awful acquisition and weare stuck with him. No one is flint to take that contract off our hands.

Bobby was awful last night. Maybe he should ask Perry how to roof a rebound. Bobby was so bad, BB had to drop down Teemu to get him going. This is not the time for Bobby to disappear from the scoresheet for ten games. It’s the time to show he shouldn’t get traded.

by Daniel AC on Dec 18, 2011 8:51 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Cogs wasn’t bad till we gave him that contract… Why on earth Muray paid him that is beyond me.
Although I agree that Bobby can’t disapear, it hasn’t been ten games yet. I really want to see either Bonino or Holland get a chance to center the second line. It would give us an indicator of how close either is to being able to handle it next year. If we need a second line center next year a trade is the best route. There isn’t much hitting FA next year. That Bobby for Krejci deal is looking a lot better at the moment. Though I still don’t think Boston would go for it.

by DavidBL on Dec 18, 2011 9:29 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Bobby will be the biggest available piece in any trade market and the Ducks HAVE to get a big return IF they trade him. He can be a great player, but he needs to show it. He and Ellis were probably our two worst players last night.

I’m not saying the Ducks SHOULD trade him, although I do think that, I’m just saying with Koivu gone, Bobby needs to be better than he has been. Otherwise, he’ll be the victim of Murray trying to save his own job.

by Daniel AC on Dec 18, 2011 10:06 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I completely agree with all of that.

by DavidBL on Dec 18, 2011 11:57 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I know I’ve mentioned this before, but I’ll say it again – Arctic Ice Hockey analyzed data on NHL centers from 1997 to the present, and they determined that Cogs was the worst center in the NHL. I think he can be used effectively on the wing, though.

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by light_the_lamp on Dec 18, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

This is so obvious to anyone watching more than a couple of games, I don’t know why NHL coaches keep putting him there. He’s worse than most wingers in the faceoff circle, he’s small and doesn’t have a lot of strength and he’s not a good passer. I can’t think of a single attribute that makes him a center. He’s a fast third line winger and I can’t believe Murray paid him either. Just another example of Murray overpaying for potential that is never going to be there and everyone else in the league seems to have seen it.

by bhlloy on Dec 18, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Umm…don’t you know Cogs was just the victim of a bad Oilers team? At the beginning of the year I think I said if Cogs was just Cogs he’d have had a good Season. Right now, he might not score 30 points. Sad, really.

by Daniel AC on Dec 18, 2011 1:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I'll eat my words from earlier

Getz looked good.. He was skating, hitting, creating space, and made some awesome passes while looking.. But I’m still skeptical until he strings some games along.. Maybe a game-tying or game-winning goal late would redeem himself..

Cogs needs to get back to his game.. Skate skate and skate.. FOs can be forgotten if he skates along side and feeds teemu..

This team is sooo close to turning it around.. They just lack that leadership to carry them to wins.. Someone needs to step it up other than Selanne

by ShamuSalami on Dec 18, 2011 10:08 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Net Cam?

Where the hell was the net cam last night? Maybe wrongly so, but I thought it was a requirement in the NHL now. Don’t remember seeing a rink without them. Though I guess I don’t look for it. Would have been really helpful on that no-goal for Perry in the second. Still not sure you would have seen anything different, but damn, it would have been nice. The overhead cam is nearly pointless for determining goals if the goalie is anywhere in position. I said some not-so-nice things last night to the TV regarding the lack of a net cam…

And yes that fourth Peg goal was BS. Glad to see BB dropping some F-bombs on the refs for that crap.

Talk about a frustrating season. Is there any chance we can start getting some posts done on the top prospects this coming draft? We’re fighting hard for that #1 pick. Would love to see some info on him and the other top prospects.

by JasonF on Dec 18, 2011 10:38 AM PST reply actions  

Net cams are not mandatory in the NHL however that was one of the things that was being talked about at the R&D camp this year.

by Newport Rebel on Dec 19, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

If a defending player pushes a offending player into their own goalie the refs will never call a goal back for goalie interference. That is exactly what Cam did, does it suck? Yes, but our D has to be more aware, looked to me like Cam caught him late as the guy was sneaking behind him. at that point taking him almost assures hes going into the goalie.

by DavidBL on Dec 18, 2011 11:52 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

unless that offending player is corey perry, right?

by dontmesswiththestache on Dec 18, 2011 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d honestly hope not, but Perrys reputaion goes against us more often then not. They may call back the goal but wont give him a penalty… Which is probably what should have happened the other night.

by DavidBL on Dec 19, 2011 2:14 AM PST up reply actions  

So, we have 10.5 minimum coming off the books next year (Blake, Koivu and Selanne, who I can’t see coming back if we are truly rebuilding)… not include Beauch, who probably wont get 3.8 even if he does stay with us. So with a few other guys we could easily end up with 15 million off our salary cap next year

So with this season pretty much a goner, and looking for anything positive to cheer me up, how are we spending that money? Somehow we have to end up with a true top pairing defensive defenseman otherwise we’re never going to get this team where it needs to be. Not sure there’s a market for that outside Weber and Suter and it might take $8m for a long time to get it done, with that kind of cap space do we consider it?

by bhlloy on Dec 18, 2011 12:08 PM PST reply actions  

If Suter actually talks to us better consider it. I can see us bringing back Beauch for around 3. Brookbank comes off as well. I think we should look at Corvo and Boychuk as well. I like Hagman but not sure how much he is worth. If we worked out a deal with Washington for Green that may also be nice paired with Beauch. his injuries could bring down his price too.

by DavidBL on Dec 18, 2011 12:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

no not Green. Please not. He is exactly what the ducks don’t need.
another offensive d-men. And Green has even a history of not having a clue how to defend.

by Freakle on Dec 18, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Beauchy should be back for less than 3. Although, it might be tough to do that if Boudreau continues to play him like a top defenseman.

by Daniel AC on Dec 18, 2011 1:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Absolutely agree. We have to have a defensive guy. Our system is stocked with offensive guys even after Lubo retires but we are crying out for the shutdown guy. Anyone who can actually clear guys out of the crease and won’t allow teams to do whatever they want around our net.

by bhlloy on Dec 18, 2011 1:38 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

The guy is a career +58, I’ve seen him play, I don’t think he is a defensively weak as you may think.

by DavidBL on Dec 18, 2011 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s not, but he’s also not what we need to be throwing money at. Especially with Schultz in the system, Fowler and Lubo in the lineup and who knows if Vatanen ever makes it over here.

by bhlloy on Dec 18, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Green is going RFA and he might not want as much money because of the injury history. If that’s the case, he could be a great pick up. He can be a number 1. Yeah, he’s not the shut down, physical d-man you want, but those guys, like quality bottom 6 players, are readily available to the discerning GM. Green is solid enough to fill that #1 role, and he might be a cheaper option than a Suter, Weber etc. I’d love to put together a package from Washington featuring Green and Laich, and Bobby could be the key piece going the other way.

I don’t think the problem is whether or not Green would be a good acquisition. I think the question is can the guy still play? In the past 6 seasons, he’s only played more than 75 games twice, and played 82 once. Homeboy just isn’t very durable and I think the last thing the Ducks need is a defense with #1 guy who is always on the shelf 20 games a season.

However, If he was still fully healthy, I think Green is an interesting alternative who might be good enough to meet our needs and be in our budget.

by Daniel AC on Dec 18, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

You also have to consider how long will Lubo be in the Lineup and how long will Schultz take to become NHL ready. Lubo hasn’t really been healthy much over the last few years, with the exception on last year and the year before, he has missed significant time as well. Green is 25 to Lubos 36. I admit that injury is a concern, but it also gives Fowler a true oportunity to develope rather be forced into a top 4 role before he is ready which given his +/- is hard to argue he is ready for top 4 duty. Also depending on what Washington desides to do with Semin, Green could be part of a Salary dump with Carlson coming up for renewal.

by DavidBL on Dec 19, 2011 2:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey, if we can get him for 4 million per, and still find a way to get a defensive guy who can play in the top 4, I’m not opposed to it. I just think he has way more value than you guys are putting on him, injury or not. Even if Washington doesn’t give it to him, somebody else will. And if he’s our one big signing, I don’t like it. I think we have bigger needs.

by bhlloy on Dec 19, 2011 7:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think we have any bigger need than a #1 defenseman. The only elite team I can think of that doesn’t have one is Vancouver, but they’re so flush with good defenders that it doesn’t matter. If you look at successful budget teams, right now Phoenix and Nashville come to mind, they both have distinct number 1 guys. It’s a serious problem for us. If you can’t afford depth, then you need to make sure the players you do spend money on are REALLY worth it.

by Daniel AC on Dec 19, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I do like Boychuk, I’m not sure the #1 guy we are looking for but outside of Suter and Weber who is? He’d probably be an upgrade over a really old Lydman next year, not sure what we do with that $3m though if he’s not in the lineup every day.

by bhlloy on Dec 18, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

This is completely off-topic

but the Colts won today (their first win of the season), and Green Bay lost (their first loss of the season). Maybe the Wild will begin a precipitous decline, and we’ll climb the standings. One can only hope…

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by light_the_lamp on Dec 18, 2011 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

Maybe

Since Tebow lost, all the divine intervention he was receiving will be directed towards Dan Ellis?

by Dixie Normus on Dec 18, 2011 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

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