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Ducks Miss Every Open Net, Get Smoked By Home Team Canucks


Well that pretty much sucked. There's no cute excuses or clever ways to describe tonight's 5-2 loss against Vancouver other than these two words: unmitigated disaster.

The game saw the Ducks go down by scores of 2-0 and 4-0, at the end of the first and second periods. While they mustered something of a fight in the third period, eventually pulling to within two at one point in the third period, Vancouver just overwhelmed Anaheim at every opportunity. Things got so bad in the third period that Bruce Boudreau actually dropped Ryan Getzlaf down to the second line to center Bobby Ryan and Teemu Selanne. Tell me the last time you saw THAT happen.

Ugly x 3 coming up (not really, but it feels like that at this point).

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The Good
  • Midway through the second period, Dan Ellis came in for Jonas Hiller and played a very strong 30 minutes. He did give up a goal late in the third, but Ellis made 14 saves on 15 shots and came up with some really good saves. Jonas didn't play a bad game, but Ellis looked much more steady in the net. He should definitely get the start on Sunday.
  • Nick Bonino and Bobby Ryan both continued their goal-scoring streaks. Bonino's goal in the third (video above) was a thing of absolute beauty and his strong play earned him increased ice time later in the game. As much as it sucks not having Saku Koivu out there, Bonino has been a revelation the past two games. He may finally be showing some of the talent we've been waiting to see.

The Bad

  • Despite six power play opportunities (including more than 30 seconds of 5-on-3 time), the Ducks could not get much going with the man advantage. Vancouver seemed to have almost as many chances short-handed as the Ducks did during the PPs. I'm not really sure what's plaguing the Ducks PP at this point, but a 16% success rate on a team loaded with top-end offensive talent is unacceptable.
  • No Anaheim forward finished with net positive rating. Andrew Gordon, Rod Pelley, Matt Beleskey, and Bobby Ryan all finished with an even rating. That was the best among our forwards. Among defensemen, Sheldon Brookbank and Luca Sbisa ended up +1 while everyone else was a minus. Cam Fowler finished with a team worst -3.
  • Effort seemed to be lacking overall tonight. There were multiple occasions where Ducks players looked tentative and unsure while Vancouver constantly pressed the advantage. As the announcers pointed out multiple times on the broadcast, pressure from Vancouver's defensemen seemed to give the Ducks fits all night and it led to several odd-man rushes for the Canucks.

The Ugly

  • Toni Lydman had a terrible game. He was pretty much directly responsible for the first two goals, the first being the result of a giveaway and the second being the result of lazy pressure on Cody Hodgson. After finishing a team-high +32 last season, Lydman has regressed badly this year. He currently sits at -10. Only Corey Perry, Ryan Getzlaf, and Cam Fowler have worse +/- ratings on the season.
  • While Vancouver buried seemingly every chance they got, the Ducks could not buy a goal until the third period. And it wasn't as if they didn't have their chances. Matt Beleskey, Corey Perry, Bobby Ryan, and Teemu Selanne all missed one or more wide-open looks. Early in the year, it was easy to dismiss these chances as bad luck. But the trend has continued throughout the season to the point that Ducks forwards just look like they have no confidence. Case in point: Perry and Getzlaf are on 3- and 4-game pointless streaks, respectively. It's the longest streaks for each of them so far this season.
  • I know that the Ducks aren't drawing real well at home these days, but it does get a little embarrassing to hear the crowd on TV as if the game is being played in Vancouver instead of Southern California. I can't really claim any moral high ground on this as I've been selling tickets like crazy this year and I have no idea if they're going to Ducks fans or not. But it was really bad tonight. Like the kind of crap you'd see in Florida.

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Damn traveling Canucks fans

The Ducks need to stop playing the Canucks at home when it’s a long weekend or the holidays in Canada; that’s when the bulk of them travel to California to escape the rain for a week or so and decide to take advantage of cheaper hockey tickets. >.<

Coming from this Vancouver-raised and -based Ducks fan, I was pretty embarrassed to see the “home game” for the Canucks too. :(

by BuckyHermit on Dec 29, 2011 10:35 PM PST reply actions  

Not only was the lower bowl very blue

At one point the DJ played “Blue Spark” by X…..
Seriously dude? Seriously?

I have never felt as outnumbered in the building as I did tonight….it was very sad.

by TheBigJT2000 on Dec 30, 2011 12:50 AM PST up reply actions  

From the internets:

Obnoxious, drunken Canucks fan threw his beer on an old lady who was with her disabled daughter, after she asked him multiple times to sit down so her daughter could see.

If you imagine a salt shaker in your hand, tilt your head back
and act like you're shaking salt into your mouth; you will taste salt if you concentrate hard enough.

by brokenyard on Dec 30, 2011 3:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmm

I’m not too surprised. I have a dis. and I’ve had crap thrown at me at Vancouver games too, just for wearing a Ducks jersey.

by BuckyHermit on Dec 30, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

We need to get used to this . . .

The season is essentially shot, and everyone knows it. Boudreau will be using this time and the next six weeks to evaluate his talent and determine who has the right attitude and wants to play. He’ll give his report to Murray for the changes needed to restructure the team.
I am SO glad to see him giving the kids more ice time, and rewarding them with some PP time, as he did late in the 3rd. The depth players are trying to earn a place on the new Ducks roster. Some of the vets and the “stars” should be thinking that way as well.

by JLL on Dec 29, 2011 10:47 PM PST reply actions  

Props to the new head coach for demoting Getzlaf

by SoCal12 on Dec 29, 2011 11:30 PM PST via Android app reply actions  

I said this WEEKS ago

But I really think they should just bench Getzlaf, Perry, Ryan, and Selanne individually for a few games at a time. I know that sounds crazy, but at least you could find out 2 things from it. 1) Who is really hurting this team? and 2) Who can play top 6 minutes. I’ve also said this before, but Cam Fowler IS NOT a top 4 defenseman right now. He wasn’t last season, he’s not this season. Seriously put him and Lydman on the 3rd pairing because I am sick and tired of those two specifically GIVING AWAY games. Beauchemin is the only competent Defenseman right now and deserves top 4 minutes. I think Sbisa always plays well when he’s paired with him so I guess that’s 2. Lubo has his moments, but he really needs a competent partner to play with him. Maybe thats Brookbank (ITS NOT), maybe its Guenin (my personal choice), or maybe its Fraser. But for the love of god switch up these pairings because our D can’t get any worse than they have been.

by Kevin Riach on Dec 30, 2011 1:25 AM PST up reply actions  

how do those 4 forwards hurt the team?

i know they are weak, but what are you expecting out of your benching stuff? (and since when have you recommended benching selanne, ALL the posts here and in the forum said that we need to trade nearly the complete team and keep only selanne).

there is no one other who can play top 6 minutes like getzlaf and perry.

Fowler has troubles, but he has real strong stints in every game. the problem is, that he can’T learn anything in the AHL, so he needs to learn the hard way at the NHL level. Kirby reduces his ice time allready.
Sbisa had a pretty weak game tonight, he tried to do too much. that’s not his game, he needs to keep it simple.
Beauchemin was ok… but not great. He doesn’t make things easier for Fowler if you ask me. i can see the love for Beauch because of his hard hitting, but he makes also many mistakes and keeps beeing really weak when he needs to tangle some one up or prevent him from shooting.

by Freakle on Dec 30, 2011 4:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not saying they hurt the team, as much as it could serve as a wake up call for those 3 (not including Selanne). As far as benching Selanne I suggested it before due because I think this team often relies to heavily on him. He’s a safety net, preventing this team from being as bad as it is playing right now. Maybe without him in the line up the rest of the team wakes up and starts playing to their potential.

I’m not suggesting a benching of all four at the same time, rather take one out of the line up at a time. Hagman, Cogliano, Koivu (when he returns) all have top 6 experience and the other 3 not being benched can fill out the rest.

As gar as the defense, I think Beauch and Sbisa help each other with their weaknesses. Beauch calms Sbisa’s play and Sbisa covers up for his mistakes well. Fowler can make those mistakes on the 3rd pairing with the less time. The fact is neither of those 2 are playing NHL calibre hockey and its killing this team. I’m not saying this fixes our Defense, but it does makes sense to put your best players on the ice, with the best pairings you can. Right now thats not being done, and instead we are leaning heavily on a kid who is not playing well and a veteran who makes mistakes as well. We need a stabilizing presence, last year it was Lydman but for whatever reason he doesn’t seem up to it this year. Someone needs to step up.

by Kevin Riach on Dec 30, 2011 5:53 AM PST up reply actions  

yepp i liked the pairing of Beauch and Sbisa as well, the problem is, we don’t have anybody we could pair with Fowler.

by Freakle on Dec 30, 2011 7:59 AM PST up reply actions  

People seem to forget

That we had that problem all last season. RC only made the change to pair Fowler and Beauchemin at the end of the season and during the playoffs. Those games the pair played together the teams record actually evened out from the tear they were playing at (when Sbisa and Beauch were paired) and we all know how the playoffs went.

by Kevin Riach on Dec 30, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought Fowler and Brookbank played respectable together last year. Brookbank has the right hand shot that allows Fowler to play his natural side. I think playing his off wing is really hurting the kid. Put those two back together for the 3rd pairing.

by DavidBL on Dec 30, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

There's nothing wrong with shaking things up

Unless you think the status quo is acceptable. I can think of far worse things than scratching Getz for a game and who knows, it might light a fire under his ass. If it doesn’t, that also tells you something.

The point is this: the product right now is a disaster and guys who normally play well look like shit. Ryan, Perry, Getz, Lubo, and Fowler have all played poorly this season. What’s wrong wih using one of the few tools a coach has to see if that sends a message.

by PhantomPretender on Dec 30, 2011 6:29 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

i could see the purpose of benching people if they are lazy on the ice, or don’t listen to their couch.
but neither is the case.
So yes i could see were you are going with that, but i don’t think it will help anything, just weakens our chances for another game.

The Ducks are loosing because our Top 4 can’t dominate the other team on their own (like they did the last 2 years.)
we depend heavily on our PP, so my first step would be to work really hard on fixing that. I like the idea of Getzlaf shooting the puck from the blue line.

This team has still the same weakness and the same strength like the last years.
The Ducks make or break with their top line and their Powerplay

by Freakle on Dec 30, 2011 7:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree that our PP struggles/success directly influence how the top 4 play even strength. That being said, I would say at good amount of games start with our Defense/Goaltending giving up at least one goal during the first 5 minutes of a period. Often times more than one goal in more than one period. This team needs to find a way to stop bleeding goals so that its offense can start to create opportunities and this team can have a fighting chance to win.

by Kevin Riach on Dec 30, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Honestly I can’t stand Getzlaf on the point. He needs to be down low to deliver the puck for a strike. He’s a defensive liability on the point, which leads to short handed chances.

by DavidBL on Dec 30, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Would weakening our chances of winning really be a terrible thing right now? i hate saying this, but realistically this season is over for us. If we’re to get anything out of it, it will be a russian in the draft.
So to bench a player, we A) get to see if he has enough heart to go a little harder, and B) we can see how a player responds to more minutes.
I kind of like the idea. I like the idea of a trade more however. Wether its ryan or getzlaf (or even perry) This team has glaring holes, and it might be time to move a piece to try to remedy that. Having a crack for Suter should be on the cards.

by BennyLightning on Dec 30, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

We do have glaring holes, but we shouldn’t have to trade for those players. We should be able to pick them up in free agency. I refuse to believe there simply weren’t any affordable veteran face off guys who could fill a bottom 6 role this offseason, or a strong physical defenseman who could clear the crease and offer a stable defensive presence. Just because Sutton failed to do that job, doesn’t mean we still didn’t need it done. All signs point to Murray being unable to fill the gaps, not necessarily a problem with the players at the top.

It’s easy to point to the big guys and say they should be doing more, but I’ve been on and coached teams where the higher ups are either inept or disinterested and that definitely filters down to the team. I think that’s what’s happening here.

by Daniel AC on Dec 30, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly, thinking that Sutton might have been the guy to get the job done is probably a fireable offense. The guy hadn’t been an NHL defenseman for a good while when we signed him, and everybody else in the league knew it.

by bhlloy on Dec 30, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

and once again.

this offseason was no defensemen of that caliber for a solid price on the market, so murray hasn’t failed on that.
i’m so glad he didn’t cripple the team with one of those stupid contracts from this offseason.
this season was not a SC season for that team, no matter what, so i think before you start your murray rant again, give him the tradedeadline + next offseason after the CBA to get that team back on track, because that is the time when he finally has non of those bad contracts in the books anymore

by Freakle on Dec 31, 2011 8:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Well white was available. i would have liked him on board. but overall i agree. although i too have my doubts about murrays ability, i dont think hes done anything TOO horrible.

by BennyLightning on Dec 31, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I missed most of this game, care to elaborate?

If you imagine a salt shaker in your hand, tilt your head back
and act like you're shaking salt into your mouth; you will taste salt if you concentrate hard enough.

by brokenyard on Dec 30, 2011 3:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Some (small) levity from the game....

During the 2nd period they offered a signed Getzlaf puck as prize….

…But they had a hard time finding one to give away…

….every time they handed him one to sign he’d try to pass it off to Perry….

by TheBigJT2000 on Dec 30, 2011 12:47 AM PST reply actions  

There’s no leadership on our D and no leadership in goal and no leadership in the forward corps.. Selanne tries to lead by example but no one is competent enough to follow.. We have a team of individuals therefore not a team.. We are expecting a lot from fowler.. And I don’t think fowler really has the confidence to play just yet.. He has the skill and potential but lacks belief in his abilities.. Maybe he needs to play for the US at the world championships in the offseason to gain more confidence, mainly his shot.. Your right.. Our defense needs to keep things simple.. And just play for spots next year.. Sucks for Selanne that he has to go out that way but reality is a bitch sometimes.. We desperately need to sign some leaders in the offseason.. One D and one F.. If we don’t not land parise and/or weber our team avg age will be what 24? That’s ridiculous

by ShamuSalami on Dec 30, 2011 2:05 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

we won’t land neither parise nor weber.

by Freakle on Dec 31, 2011 8:36 AM PST up reply actions  

We don't need a Parise

A Weber would be fantastic but I agree that we won’t land him either. I don’t think we should trade a Getzlaf, Perry, or Ryan. Those guys are immensely and really they aren’t the problem. Hiller has been shaky this year, no matter how many goals aren’t his fault. The biggest problem though is the defense. Plain and simple this is not an NHL calibre Defense. Sbisa and Fowler aren’t ready (they really shouldn’t have to be) to carry this corps. Lubo has taken a step back and there still isn’t a true 6th man on the back end. Most importantly Lydman has regressed from the leader of the Defense to the biggest liability. We need someone who can take that role and the sad fact is they are probably going to be expensive.

by Kevin Riach on Dec 31, 2011 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

On a side note -
Kyle Palmieri sent back down .

And I saw that AVery is back on Waivers.

by Hockey Phreak on Dec 30, 2011 2:11 PM PST reply actions  

I m not sure avery is a good pick up now. When he first went onto re-entry waivers i was all for it as i thought we could have saved the season. Now i think the season is gone, and i cant see how avery would fit into our long term plans. Would much rather stick with the kids we have, and bring max back up from syracuse and let him learn on the job again. keeping in mind while our PK has gone down hill, the 2 missing parts are him and saku.

by BennyLightning on Dec 30, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Still don’t understand why we sent Max down. He’s a great 4th line center. Perfect PK and works his butt off. I don’t understand why we don’t like putting out competitive 4th line forwards.

by Kevin Riach on Dec 31, 2011 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d love to pick up Avery, I think he’s exactly what our third line needs.

by Daniel AC on Dec 30, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

An aging forward who refs hate, picks up a ton of PIMs, and has a bad reputation through out the league. Yup sound like exactly what our third line needs.

by Kevin Riach on Dec 31, 2011 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

if nothing else, he’d fit in.

by BennyLightning on Dec 31, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

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