Let Down and Hanging Around
ARTHUR:
Anaheim calling to the hockey world...
The staff is mostly resting during the Ducks' offseason, but behind the scenes, we're all watching the playoffs. And we just HAD to come out of hibernation to talk about the Sharks.
In the five completed seasons after the last Lockout, San Jose amassed 544 points and ZERO Conference Finals wins. However, despite their parade of playoff exits, the most embarrassing one seems to have been their 2009 elimination at the hands of the 8th seed Anaheim Ducks-- and many Sharks experts would agree with that estimation. This blogger even declared, last season, that due to Cap concerns, the comical, Benny Hill-esque Sharks were at an end, and they would either get better or much worse.
Well, now in danger of stealing defeat from the jaws of a 3-0 lead in their series with Detroit, perhaps the Benny Hill Sharks have returned for a final performance. Daniel, if the Sharks lose this series, is it the most embarrassing loss in that franchise's history?
DANIEL:
It might be close, but this would be a 2 seed losing to a 3 seed. This is supposed to be a close series.
I'll admit. It's hard to choose a single greatest let down for a team that's had its postseason history marked with more failures than successes. Still, and maybe it's the pride talking, I think the Sharks greatest playoff defeat came at the hands of the Ducks. The Sharks were loaded that season, with depth to match. They were the Presidents' trophy winners.
Meanwhile, Anaheim had to fight tooth and nail to claim the 8 seed. Yes, that team still had a core from the Cup winning squad of two years before, but it was a shadow of its former self. Gone was two thirds of that epic shutdown line, as well as two thirds of the top line. Left over were the two former Norris winners and a couple of kids from the PPG line. Nobody knew how good those kids would be. When you add the fact that this was a chance for San Jose to kick the Ducks while they were down, it just makes the loss that much more bitter.
For reasons I can't understand, the Sharks seem to be the darling of the national media, while the Ducks and Kings continue to be undervalued. San Jose blew a golden chance to silence the whispers of Anaheim superiority. Instead, they became the team that chokes...again...well, all over again.
Personally, I think that loss will sting San Jose fans a little more than blowing the 3-0 series lead. It's the Red Wings, and their job is to piss off all of California's hockey fans. Every team on this coast has bad stories about what the winged wheel has done to them, and this will just be one more of those stories. Let's face it, the media likes it that way.
ARTHUR:
I agree that losing to the Red Wings buys you a little more dignity. Not for good reason or anything, but the ink spilled on your loss will be favorable. Everyone is, apparently, supposed to lose to the Wings.
Still, I think there's a special shame to dropping a 3-0 series lead. Presidents' Trophy teams have been upset before, first seeds have dropped series, so you don't talk about it or reference it as 'historical' very often. But every time a team is down 3-0, you name the teams that overcame it. With that list growing, maybe the Sharks won't be mentioned EVERY TIME it happens in the future. But there's no guarantee of that.
For that reason alone, I think this loss would gain a special place in the pantheon of Sharks failures and ongoing embarrassment. Every time every pundit is urging you not to get excited about a team coming back from 3-0, he'll tell you that the team with the lead in the series won't collapse like the '42 Wings, the '75 Penguins, the '10 Bruins, or the '11 Sharks. EVERY TIME. 'This team knows how to finish a series, unlike those losers.' EVERY TIME.
To have that dagger plunged into their hearts, year after year, oh man, it's the gift that keeps on giving.
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I completely agree. I hadn’t thought of it that way before, but that is exactly how I feel. I don’t mind watching the Sharks choke again, but I can’t stand that it’s at the hands of the Red Wings. Any… other… team… Just not Detroit… I swore more last night watching the Sharks/Red Wings game than I think I have ever swore watching a Ducks game. It’s too painful to see the Red Wings win. I hate them so much.
For the record, if I can pick between the Sharks choking to the bitter end or the Wings losing, I still pick to have the Wings losing. Their winning pains me more than the joy I get from the Ducks winning.
Arthur nailed it
Blowing a 3-0 lead is a special type of choking that gets you into an exclusive type of club that only 3 teams belong too. If the Sharks complete their membership into this club it completely trumps all past choking. Everytime a team starts on the 3-0 comeback their name would be mentioned with the teams that have completed this special choke.
I don´t even consider the 2009 elimination that embarrassing. The sharks started off hot and cooled off and kind of coasted into their president´s trophy while we had to fight and grind our way to the playoffs. When they started we were already well into playoff mode. I completely expected us to win going into that series. When we won I wasn´t a bit shocked.
Gotta roll with Arthur on this one too
The Sharks already have an incredible reputation of choking in the playoffs and they’ve accomplished that without dropping a 3-0 series lead. It’s like cementing the franchise into the history books of choking. If this happens, I think it would be difficult to find one team in sports history who has had so much regular season success, yet has failed so miserably often in the post-season.
It puts a smile on my face that reaches from ear to ear, however nothing can alleviate the pain from the Ducks losing to the Preds the way they did. Except, maybe a bottle of scotch. But that’s temporary at best.
I got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell
I think if they lose to the Wings it will be harder to swallow and live with than losing to the Ducks. They were simply outworked and could not beat Hiller in 09. My question is if they do lose do they blow up the roster or try for another go Jumbo Joe, Heatley, and Marleau. Good collection of talent but never enough heart and compete which is what wins playoff series.
One of the managers in my division
(who I don’t report to) is a huge Sharks fans and I love talking to him about the series and acting compassionate. Am I a bad person for secretly loving his anguish while I try to console him?
At any rate, he’s convinced they’ll blow up the team if they don’t make it this year. They’ve made incremental increases year to year but nothing seems to matter when they hit the post-season. Apparently that’s the prevailing theory in San Jose.
by PhantomPretender on May 11, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
tsk … this isn’t even choking as too many of you like to call it … IF they do happen to not win tonight. Each of the games were one goal games cept for the last which included an ENG. Which just shows you how closely matched the two teams are, as we knew they would be going into this.
GO SHARKS!
GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)
I feel that when you are up 3-0 in a series, and you can’t win any of the next four games to close out the series, that is choking. It’s not who they are playing, just that they can’t close the deal when the need to.
And I feel you are wrong. You clearly aren’t watching the games and how closely they are if you are only looking at the 3-0.
GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)
I don't see how you can spin this
If you are up 3-0 and can’t close you are a choker plain and simple. Doesn’t matter how well matched the teams are, how close the games are, if you are up 3-0 you close.
You are feel to free that way. I am watching the games and I do see how close it is. But that doesn’t give the team and reason they can’t win just one of the last four games… That’s the point. Not how close the games are or who they are playing, it’s the simple fact they can’t get it done when it counts the most.
I gotta disagree angy
What makes this so bad is that the sharks are leading in these games and they STILL can’t finish it off. Say what you want about the ducks, but they only blew a third period lead in one game. It’s become a habit for the sharks.
by PhantomPretender on May 12, 2011 12:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I feel for you Ang, you know you’re my favorite Shark fan, but this is a choke job. I’ve watched these games, and, from a hockey standpoint, the series has been damn entertaining. This Sharks team has/had what it takes to win this series. If they don’t find a way to get it done, they choked, plain and simple.
If it makes you feel better, I think the Ducks failed epically this off season.
And the sharks move on
Damnit. I was really hoping for the total collapse.
by PhantomPretender on May 12, 2011 8:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I’m happy they won. I don’t care they had a chance to make history… That would have meant Detroit won another series which is the last thing I want. Now SJ better beat the Canucks but then better lose in the SCF.

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