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Author's note: Anaheim GM Bob Murray was incorrectly referenced as Bryan Murray in the section discussing Joseph Cramarossa.

DANIEL:

The Ducks continue to take centers. William Karlsson of the Swedish U18 team, Joseph Cramarossa of Mississauga, and Andy Welnski. Each Player will have a little info after the jump.

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William Karlsson:

The most encouraging news I found about Karlsson came from Hockey's Future who identified him as a riser in the draft. They even went so far as to say "Karlsson is heart and soul and will be a draft day steal". Encouraging words for Ducks fans who want to see the bottom 6 solidified in the coming years. Good news is he's great in the circle and has a solid defensive presence. He has good hands and some offensive upside. The real question going forward with Karlsson will be, is he unremarkably remarkable, or simply unremarkable?

Joseph Cramarossa:

Teammate of Devante Smith-Pelley, Joseph is trying to fulfill his Father's dream of making the NHL, and Bob Murray's dream of drafting centers with 3 of his first 4 draft picks. Jokes aside, Cramarossa was ranked as the 63 North American Skater by Central Scouting, a 5 place climb from the midterm ranking. At 6'0", 180 lbs., he's almost an NHL sized player. Cramarossa has good speed and is pretty good in the circle. He had 32 points for the Majors last season, and even got into a good tilt with Scott Valentine. There are some doubts about his ability to win 1-on-1 battles, not necessarily encouraging for a guy who's probably a bottom 6 forward

Andy Welinski:

Another Ducks draft pick that's headed for the NCAA; I think Arthur just smiled a little. Andy is headed for the University of Minnesota-Duluth to better prepare himself for life as a full time NHLer. Andy shot up the Central Scouting Rankings, going from 103rd in the midterm rankings to 48th in the final rankings. You can read a Q&A he did with The Scouting Report here. It's hard to have faith in a kid who thinks Tech N9ne is a good rapper, but a guy who gets noticed like this has to have something going for him. There were early question marks about his agility, and I haven't read anything about a physical game, not surprising for a 6 foot 188 pound defender. Still, it's a right handed shot to put on the point, and there's a chance that he could grow a little more and turn into a good defenseman for the Ducks.

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Bob is looking to find chemistry between Cramarossa and DSP. If Cram turns out, it would be sweet to have 3 nice offensive lines in a few years:

Perry/Getzlaf/Etem
Ryan/Holland/McMillan
DSP/Cramarossa/Palmieri

(I know this is stretching it a bit)

"That might've been a little push, but that was a major flop. That would make Vlade Divac very proud." - Jerry Reynolds

by JuMowbray on Jun 25, 2011 11:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Ducks trade 2012 sixth round for TOR 2011 sixth round and pick Josh Mason (D)

by Newport Rebel on Jun 25, 2011 11:47 AM PDT reply actions  

There’s a little payback from Burke…I guess.

by Daniel AC on Jun 25, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

6’3" 206 at 19 years old isn’t bad for a sixth. Good size to him. Right hand shot.

by Newport Rebel on Jun 25, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s 4-5 years away, unless he just blossoms at Quinnipiac in two years.

by Daniel AC on Jun 25, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Manson not Mason. My bad.

by Newport Rebel on Jun 25, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

When did we get Bryan Murray? sweeeet upgrade.

by kvd123 on Jun 25, 2011 12:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Sorry, I’ve been trying to churn these out as quickly as possible to get you all a little extra info. I haven’t been double checking.

by Daniel AC on Jun 25, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha yea I gotcha, I appreciate all the work you guys do, keep it coming!

by kvd123 on Jun 25, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

When you go in to fix that you may also want to fix “The rel question going forward with Karlsson will be, is he unremarkably remarkable, or simply unremarkable?”

by Newport Rebel on Jun 25, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do you say that? I’m not saying it’s good writing, it’s not. But the purpose of the question is clear. The reports I read said he’s hard to notice and that it’s easy for him to simply disappear. Either he’ll be that guy you don’t notice has had a great game, or he might just be the guy who isn’t impacting the game at all.

by Daniel AC on Jun 25, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

nevermind, I just saw the spelling error. Damn, I need food.

by Daniel AC on Jun 25, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know if anyone has seen this,

but I find it pretty hilarious. The aftermath of the Flyers blow-up:

http://cgi.ebay.com/260807570147?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dp4712.m570.l1313%26_nkw%3D260807570147%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

"That might've been a little push, but that was a major flop. That would make Vlade Divac very proud." - Jerry Reynolds

by JuMowbray on Jun 25, 2011 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

That is too damn funny but I do not want a bandwagon fan. Let the Wings get him.

by Newport Rebel on Jun 25, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually thought those moves were not bad, Carter gets hurt a ton, I’ve never been a fan of him. Richards is a loss but they got very good value for him in Simmonds, Schenn and a pick, plus Voracek and Couturier for Carter, while shedding a ton of salary. The Bryzgalov move is what puzzles me. Funny though.

by kvd123 on Jun 25, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

What’s puzzling about the Bryzgalov move? The Flyers finally got the goalie they’ve been looking for. They might have overpaid a bit, but when you’ve had goalie issues for as long as they have it’s worth it. Don’t give me this “He underperformed against Detroit in the playoffs” stuff, as a Ducks fan you should know how Bryz can play in the postseason when he is on a good team.

Just waiting until September

by Shackleford on Jun 25, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the real problem is that they gave up 2 of their best players to get him. You can’t win a lot of games when you can’t score goals.

by Daniel AC on Jun 25, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The term is ridiculous and the dollar amount is too high, anything over 5 years is too long.

by kvd123 on Jun 25, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s Russian, they all seem to want nice big long deals.

by DavidBL on Jun 26, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anything where you are making 5+ at 40 is way too high. He is worth the 5 (sort of) right now but what happens after he hits 35 and starts to decline. Not everyone is going to hold up like Tim Thomas.

by Newport Rebel on Jun 26, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

They expect him to retire before the duration of the contract is fulfilled.

by DavidBL on Jun 27, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

After I've had more time to digest the trades,

I think they both work well for the Flyers. Although they’re set back short-term, their whole lineup will be loaded long-term. Just imagine having Schenn (#1 prospect in hockey) and Couturier as your one and two down the middle. Add Giroux and JVD to the top six, with Voracek, Wellwood, Ranford and possibly a FA or two in the mix. They’ll be good.

But I keep wondering what Mike Richards had to have done to get himself – as the captain of the team – traded. Something like that never happens. The locker room had to be toxic.

"That might've been a little push, but that was a major flop. That would make Vlade Divac very proud." - Jerry Reynolds

by JuMowbray on Jun 25, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

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