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Duckin' Aint Easy

DANIEL:

The Business Journal conducted a study to determine which NHL teams it was the most difficult to cheer. Surprisingly, the Ducks finished 28th. In other words, The Business Journal believes that it's pretty easy to be a Ducks fan. Their method - not methodology - is primarily focused on winning. Simply, if your team has enjoyed recent playoff and regular season success, then it is an easy team to root for. This is a pretty one dimensional standard and ignores key factors, such as history, style of play, and fan identity. The article attempts to put a truer scope on what it means to be a Ducks fan, the good and the bad. Let me preface this by saying, I'll be making a lot of generalizations. If you think it doesn't apply to you, then maybe it doesn't apply to you.

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I'll fulfill my obligatory negativity quota by starting with the perception of West Coast Sports - better known as "East Coast media bias". This country developed from the East to the West. As a result, everything that is older is farther east. Similarly, things that are older are considered to be better due to their longevity, history, tradition etc. Moreover, the time difference makes it difficult for the East Coast Media to watch all the games and correctly assess the true value of our teams and their players. Of course, with the advent of DVR, I think this excuse is becoming less and less justifiable. Yes, I just said the East Coast Media is lazy. However, I will add the caveat that the blog centric media tends to be much more attuned to West Coast sports than ESPN. For die hard fans who have followed this team for its nearly two decades of history, the silent treatment we get from mainstream, national media is frustrating.

Perhaps more frustrating than the indifferent national media is the inability of our fellow fans to let go of the "thug" moniker we've so undeservedly earned. I'm not going to say that the Ducks haven't had players that play on the edge, but I will say that every NHL team has them. For example, Niklas Kronwall throws flying elbows that would make the late Randy Savage 12 different kinds of proud. I've seen Sidney Crosby give slashes behind the play without recourse. Not every single play committed by a Ducks player is dirty. I'm sick of watching games where teams can throw punches at us, but we can't throw any back. It's hard being the fan of a team when everything you do is considered dirty, but similar practices by opposing teams are considered good hockey.

Another thing we can't seem to shake is our Disney history. Look, it's not my fault that The Mighty Ducks was an awesome movie. It's also not my fault that Disney's drive for family entertainment led to Kariya's early injuries. (Editor's Note: ALLEGEDLY led to..please do not sue us - Jen) I follow the Ducks because Paul Kariya and Teemu Selanne were riveting and the organization won my loyalty. I used to follow the Kings before the Ducks joined the league, but there was something about the hockey that was so exciting for me. I'm not embarrassed by the Disney era. There was a lot of good hockey that got played, and Disney put on a phenomenal show. However, it seems I can't get into a conversation about the quality of an organization without someone inevitably making the argument that the Ducks are an awful team because Disney used to own them. That's like saying the United States is an awful country because it used to operate under the Articles of Confederation.

The final reason being a Duck fan is rough is that it's a small market team in a large market area. Anaheim has over 300,000 people and Orange County has over 3 million. When you start to incorporate the populations of Riverside and north San Diego counties, as well as the huge amount of people in L.A. county, there's a huge fan base to be had. Yet, hockey hasn't seem to taken strong root in Southern California. As the cap has risen, the Ducks spending has not. As of this writing, the Ducks have only spent 2 million more towards the cap than the new Winnipeg team despite access to a market that dwarfs Winnipeg. There wasn't a lot to spend money on this summer, but in general. It's frustrating being the fan of a small market team that's on the edge of the second largest market in the country.

However, it's not all bad. There are a few key factors that make it easy to be a Ducks fan that are frequently ignored by the rest of the country. First, Anaheim has always done a great job of keeping star power. While that seems like a small consolation to winning, it does make for a watchable product. The Ducks do a great job of keeping around players that are worth the price of admission. Even when they lost Kariya and Selanne in the summer of 2003, they managed to replace them with Sergei Fedorov. Disney started a good tradition of star players in Anaheim, even if they were a bit tyrannical with Kariya. Good players make it easy to stomach hard times.

Furthermore, ignorance is bliss. Arthur and I once had a discussion about California sports fans where it was discussed how fans out here tend to be fans of their team and not their sport. I think this accounts for the narrow minded view of a lot of the Kariya haters that erupted after he left the team. This isn't to say that fans out here know nothing about the sport, but rather we seem only able to contextualize things in reference to our teams. I would say that West Coast fans are the ethnocentrists of the sports world. It's easy to understand when you consider that our teams are not only younger than other franchises, but often not included in national discussions. It's quite the conundrum. The national media ignores the west coast teams, and as a result west coast fans tend to stay in their own little world in relation to the rest of the league. However, it makes it easy to appreciate your team, because you soon stop caring what other people think.

Finally, it's easy to be a Duck fan because we live in Southern California. I certainly don't follow this mold, but it's easy to follow a team when your life isn't invested in it. There are tons of things to do in California. The compact nature of the south makes it fairly easy to go to museums, sporting, events, cultural hubs, as well as countless outdoor activities in the beaches and mountains. It's easy to go somewhere and take your mind off the sport. We don't have the fanatics that seem to characterize "great" fanbases, but it also means we probably won't riot after losing a championship, winning is a different story. Still, we have plenty to do to keep our mind off the sport. When you don't have to be mentally and emotionally invested in the team all the time, it makes the highs more enjoyable and the lows more tolerable.

I think that covers a few of the differences. Being a Duck fan can be a difficult undertaking but also offers several rewards. Being a fan is actually a complex process of identity; most of these quantitative studies are only good for making posts like this.

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being a ducks fan in New York its is really easy to see the east coast bias. The first time I felt the Ducks treated as a legit franchise out here was when we traded for Pronger. Even at the 03 cup in New Jersey all around the stadium people either didnt know us, didnt care or figured we were a joke. I go to as many east coast games as I can get to and whether im wearing a purple and green Giguere jersey or the black and gold Selanne I take pride in cheering for the team people know nothing about that is competitive year in and year out

by Joe Holub on Jul 17, 2011 7:36 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

It’s easy to be a Ducks fan because the team frickin wins! Except for some of those early years (even then we still made the playoffs a couple of years) the Ducks have been legit. Even in those early years I’d have to say at least the hockey was entertaining!

Kariya then Selanne got me here, but good hockey has kept me here…

by CoachZ on Jul 17, 2011 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I think that’s the thing that would be the most surprising for people who don’t understand our franchise; the hockey is good! Except for a few years around 200, it’s always been tolerable to watch the game. It’s been good hockey to watch.

by Daniel AC on Jul 17, 2011 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup if I remember correctly it was the Gauthier/Page years that were the hardest…

Even Wysh was messing with Ducks on Puck Daddy when he blogged about this study, which I just don’t get.

17 seasons (minus lockout)
2 SCF appearances
1 went to seven games the other we won the cup
And since we won the cup we’ve only missed the playoffs once?

What’s not to like?

by CoachZ on Jul 18, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Daniel

The Ducks fan base should be much larger due to the population in the area but isn’t. Clearly The Rinks is a program to grow hockey fans in the long term, but what do you think the Ducks should do to grow fans in the short term?

by Newport Rebel on Jul 17, 2011 9:42 PM PDT reply actions  

follow arte moreno and make beer cheaper!!…done end of story

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 18, 2011 5:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think part of the problem is simply that hockey isn’t seen as an American sport, so only die hards ever really get into it. It’s just not a sport built for the casual fan. Primarily because you have to pay attention the whole time, like soccer.

I think Spade makes a fair point, but I’d go a step further. One of the reasons Disney did well for a long time with a marginally inferior product was because they were so good at selling it as a family night out. People felt that even if they didn’t know alot about hockey, they would still be able to have a good time. I don’t think the Samuelis have done that as well.

Finally, I agree with Arthur. He’s been saying for a while that college hockey is the key to expanding hockey in the USA. If kids can earn scholarships to more schools, they’ll be encouraged to play. More college options means more kids who take the game up early and start following their heroes to model their own game. It also means parents going to games and getting invested in teams. Finally, it means random college fans, you know the “I only follow USC” people, to gain interest in the sport. Eventually that will lead to market expansion.

by Daniel AC on Jul 18, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

The part about college....

is dead on….. I played up until college and got some scholarships….but they were ALL back east and i wanted to stay out here….. too bad the college hockey out here is AWFUL….. the hockey out here is sadly club hockey at colleges…… you have to pay for everything yourself…it sucks

by Riley Popp on Jul 19, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will always hate that man. Sure he made the beer cheeper but he named the team LA Angels. Fuck LA.

by Newport Rebel on Jul 18, 2011 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t hate on L.A. It’s superior to Anaheim in every way imaginable.

by Daniel AC on Jul 18, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t liked LA since I got mugged after a Ducks Kings game.

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by tohon on Jul 18, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate LA with every cell of my body

Worked their too much for the obscenely wealthy while driving a giant truck through the streets, and I hate every team they produce.

But I got over the whole LA Angels thing pretty quick, got the seats full, and I agree, make beer cheaper, although 8.50 for a blue moon really isn’t bad at all, even as a self-proclaimed beer snob. I dropped 8.75 at Petco for a 24 oz of bud light, I’d gladly pay .25 less for a smaller better beer, you get your alcohol worth quicker anyways

by ASale on Jul 18, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Petco sells beer? Huh… Never knew

by red8ball on Jul 18, 2011 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

A lot of super wealthy people don’t live in L.A. proper. They live in the L.A. area, but not the actual city.

by Daniel AC on Jul 19, 2011 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Very true, all the events were held in LA though, I guess all the spoiled kids jaded me

by ASale on Jul 19, 2011 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing like sharing a beer with your pup! But yeah, Petco has probably the best beer selection I’ve seen at a stadium, lot’s of local vendors like Stone, Balast Point, etc.

by ASale on Jul 19, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I might point out that we have spent 2 mill more then Winnipeg on 5 fewer players. but I’ll concede the point anyway. I do feel that part of our fan base being week compared to other markets even given the potential size may be BECAUSE we have so much else to do. I still feel that it is growing though and hope that one day we won’t have to be a budget team.

by DavidBL on Jul 18, 2011 1:01 AM PDT reply actions  

The Articles of Confederation

…are total bull, and I’m glad someone finally agrees with me on that point.

by Johngo Fett on Jul 18, 2011 5:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Although I agree with a few of the basic principles of it like local government and extreme limits of taxing, it was a pretty poor excuse for a founding document. Hey it could be worse, all England has is the Magna Carta, just about everything else is based on precedents

by ASale on Jul 18, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

good post…I agree I dont give a sh%@ what other fans think about us…fu*# off haters

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jul 18, 2011 6:00 AM PDT reply actions  

I think it’s always nice to be respected, but I also think there are fare too many people who simply won’t see the Ducks for what they are, a quality organization…with a bad GM :)

At that point, you kind of have to just let it go.

by Daniel AC on Jul 18, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

A co-worker of mine is a Detroit native and obviously a Red Wings fan, and explaining to him that having a storied history are essentially nice bed time fairy tales was hilarious. It is unfortunate that we don’t get much respect, but then again when it comes down to it, I’d rather be a fun team to watch with a ring than have what most other hockey would call “legit”

by ASale on Jul 18, 2011 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I personally love being a Ducks fan.

I love to shove the east coast bias and any negativity in the faces of those that show disrespect and think of the Ducks and anything associated with the Ducks as inferior or less deserving of being considered a legitimate NHL franchise. I love when we win and love to seek revenge after we lose. It sucks not having the recognition that Ducks deserve and having a small market. I hope that in time we will demonstrate and win over fans to become a larger market team. I love the small market feel of the Ducks but the team has to grow and continue to gain fans to survive.

by docescobar07 on Jul 18, 2011 6:33 PM PDT reply actions  

If the Honda Center was full or waving orange towels at say even half the games of the year, we could move towards the line of respect that others get. Look at the Caps and Canes, they were not respected at all even after the Canes won the Cup. They have earned some respect nationally after the All Star game as it showed a large and loyal fan base. Marketing is a huge part of that. From cheap student tickets up top, UCI, OCC, Golden West etc. To accessible product, Good luck walking into a sports store and finding any gear. I am sure some will be quick to point out the “several” places one can find it, but only after each of them came up empty handed at most places. We have an identity crisis both in and out of hockey, Dirty Ducks still in the NHL world, Mighty Ducks in the east coast NHL markets (half the announcers haven’t got the memo) and the quizzical look of, Hockey? Oh yeah I always forget about the Ducks, where do THEY play? I wouldn’t trade it for anything though…Go Ducks!

by Buick22 on Jul 19, 2011 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Mighty Ducks in the east coast NHL markets (half the announcers haven’t got the memo

KCAL 9 still had the Mighty Ducks Logo used for the news when we lost to Dallas in the first round in 08.

That was pretty sad.

by Mudhippy on Jul 20, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever, that logo is 12 kinds of baller.

by Daniel AC on Jul 20, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed. It’s why I haven’t bought any new jersey since then.

by Mudhippy on Jul 20, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every year I hope EA will put it in the NHL game so I can see it again, and every earth break my heart.

by Daniel AC on Jul 20, 2011 5:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

DUDE I know!!! I keep hopping they release a jersey pack. I’d spend 10 bucks to get all the Ducks jerseys, and they never do it.

by Mudhippy on Jul 21, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I NEVER pay extra money for anything, and I’d pay for that jersey pack.

I’d even switch from RW to LW so I could play for the Ducks without pushing Perry down the depth chart.

by Daniel AC on Jul 21, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Proud Duck's Fan

I was born and raised in the OC but became a Ducks fan 2 years ago. My boyfriend is originally from Buffalo and they are crazy about hockey, when he moved to the OC 6 years ago he became a Ducks fan. We have been together 5 years now and I can remember our first few years, he would watch hockey, I would make him nachos and then go about my buisness in another room. I began to watch Duck’s game with him and now I do not miss a game. I have been a fan for 2 years and can not wait for this season to start (is it Oct yet?). Especially because our first game is against Buffalo (I hope we win so I can gloat to my boyfriend). I keep a schedule next to the TV so I don’t miss a game. I scream at bad refs, jump up and down on my bed when something awesome happens, go ape shit when Parros takes off his gloves(KICK HIS ASS PARROS), hell I even throw a hat in the air when our team gets a hat trick. I was lucky enough last season to sit on the glass and it was one of the most exciting things in my life ( Teemu’s wife was sitting behind me, crazy). We won that game and my little fists hurt the next day from pounding on the glass so hard. I have become a bigger Duck’s fan then my boyfriend and he always says “I think I created a hockey monster”. I don’t know a lot about Duck’s history but what I do know is I like what I see now. I hope for a awesome season, I will be watching and cheering for the Duck’s at each and every game.

by BlondeBettie on Jul 20, 2011 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Welcome to our site and welcome to the Ducks fan family. I am equally enthusiastic and sometimes it frustrates my girlfriend. She’s coming around though.

by Daniel AC on Jul 20, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also hate it when people that don’t like our Ducks start spouting off about Disney owning us, who the F cares that was a long time ago and if there is no Disney there is no Ducks period. I been a fan so long i actually went to a game in San Jose when our best player was Bobby Dollas,lol i almost got mugged at that arena

If practice makes perfect....
Yet nobodies perfect.....
Then why practice ???

by peteyweestro on Jul 20, 2011 8:10 PM PDT reply actions  

This is my first time posting, but I figure this might be a good first thread. Anyway, I never watched hockey before about the middle of last season, after I had come out to Colorado for grad school from Southern California and nobody I knew back home followed it. Met some people here who convinced me to go to an Avs game, so I did, despite not knowing anything about hockey. It turned out to be quite an interesting game. I decided I wanted to go for a team back home though, which meant either the Kings or the Ducks and I’ll take OC over LA anytime. I’m trying to learn up on the team history and I’m making it a point to make it to the Pepsi Center when the Ducks come out to play the Avs (Feb 27 and Mar 12). I’m just hoping I can get involved with Ducks Nation now. For what it’s worth, I got an old Pronger jersey and a t-shirt I intend to proudly sport when the time comes.

by snowfire on Jul 22, 2011 10:43 PM PDT reply actions  

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