Open Gameday Thread: Anaheim Ducks @ Dallas Stars
by Jen Neale on Jan 24, 2012 2:30 PM PST
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There is no doubt about it - the Ducks have caught fire. And like all things Anaheim this season, it couldn't come at worse time. Following tonight's game, the Ducks will begin their nearly week long break while Corey Perry and others gather in Ottawa for the 59th All-Star Game. If the Ducks have any hope of making a run at the playoffs, they must quickly regain their winning form as soon as the puck drops a week from now in Phoenix.
Let's see how the Ducks have fared post-All Star/Olympic break in the past two seasons:
| Season | Record Before ASG/OLY | Record After ASG/OLY | Playoffs? |
| 2011-12 | 18-22-7 (43 pts) | ? | ? |
| 2010-11 | 28-20-4 (60 pts) | 19-10-1 (39 pts) | YES |
| 2009-10 | 30-25-7 (67 pts) | 9-7-4 (22 pts) | NO |
Well, while that's not exactly encouraging. Although, the one interesting thing is that the 2009-10 season saw the Ducks ahead in points and they didn't make the playoffs. Granted they had played a compact schedule due to the Olympic break, but the key is momentum. Either the Ducks pick up where they left off or they spiral downward.
One thing that is new to the Ducks is this thing called "rest". Since taking over, Coach Bruce Boudreau has insisted on the guys taking their time away from the ice to refresh their bodies and minds. Heck, he even surprised them with a bowling trip yesterday instead of practice. (Fun! He wants fun!) In the past 10 games, we've seen the fruits of that change in behaviors. They are a re-energized team that plays nearly a completely game almost every night. Look, it's going to take a Herculean-effort to get the Ducks into the playoffs, so maybe the rest will continue to do some good. They're going to need all the help they can get.
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I think the biggest problem was he wasnt fun to play under or play for. And thats the issue.
by Hockey Phreak on Jan 24, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
I’m just saying, he took the guys to do things like see movies, etc. I’m not saying he was fun at those events, just that he tried to do it.
Yeah but Randy wasnt a very social person. Thats one reason I think fans never really liked Randy even though he did do a great job with some of the teams he had been given by Murray. I think movies were his way of hanging with the team without having to really talk or interact with them. Gabby is the exact opposite. I dont think you can shut him up. He seems to love to talk with anyone, anywhere, anytime.
by Newport Rebel on Jan 24, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly
I don’t know if the whole “take the day off” is exactly reinventing the wheel. He’s probably giving them the day off because this is their 3rd game in 4 days. And maybe more importantly Hiller’s 3rd start in 4 days. Its nice that he did the bowling thing for them, but again I think Jen was just trying to have something to talk about other than people on the other team that are good. Usually that ends up jinxing the game.
Yeah they went bowling in Detroit
A few years ago. But Boudreau at a bowling alley probably is more fun than Carlyle.
As for whomever said Carlyle wasn’t friendly, I only ever met the man once and he was exceedingly cordial and amiable. It might have helped that I had my visibly pregnant wife and two other women with me (shoutout to Jen and her buddy), but Randy was a standup guy with us. I think he handled the media fine, he just wasn’t the kind of coach that is given to effusive praise. And at a certain point, the constant criticism just loses its effectiveness.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 4:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I agree the all-star break is coming at an inoppurtune time...
but lets go into it with another win to help ebb the flow even further into our direction over the break.
Ironically enough with all this talk about bowling
I have work from 6-9 tonight and am going to miss most of the game. I work at a bowling alley. Thank you DVR
by Eric_Stites on Jan 24, 2012 5:32 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I love bowling. I have a 215 average. lol
by Hockey Phreak on Jan 24, 2012 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
Not bad
I hover around the 200 range for average
Nice. I use mostly Roto Grip and Morich balls. I have a huge hook with alot of revs. Ive been trying to cut my revs down, but not having any luck. lol
by Hockey Phreak on Jan 24, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
I stick to my trusty Storm
That ball does me well
Ah.. Ive never liked storm. Ever since I was a kid I havnt liked them.
by Hockey Phreak on Jan 24, 2012 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
To be honest, even though were about to head into the all-star break, i'm really excited again for ducks games.
Instead of being relieved on their nights off, I am bored and looking forward till their next match.
by pvinet on Jan 24, 2012 5:39 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I don't understand this either
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
agreed
I hate Blake on that line. I love Hagman too so any time he gets on the ice is good.
by Kevin Riach on Jan 24, 2012 5:46 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
What do you think he is worth for a new contract? $2.25M for 2 years sound fair?
by Newport Rebel on Jan 24, 2012 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
You're talking 2.25 each?
Absolutely
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
Anything around 1 per year and 3 years or less I think is fair.
by Kevin Riach on Jan 24, 2012 5:57 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I’d say 2 years @ 2 million. I’d like to keep it under 2. I think if Murray is careful and not cheap, he can make it happen for 1.75.
I would be cautious about signing him if Koivu and Selanne don’t return.
by Kevin Riach on Jan 24, 2012 5:58 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I wouldn't
He works his ass off. He’d be a good partner for either the kids or a kid + Bobby.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
I think we need to keep him. We’ll need at least one more veteran winger who can have a versatile game. Hags can fit on a second or third line and will probably be a 40-50 point guy if we’re lucky. Honestly, I think he’s a better option than Cogliano.
I would agree with all of this
Cogliano just has not worked out as I hoped he would.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but he hasn’t been as bad as I thought he’d be either. I said early on I’d be happy if he was just Cogs. So far, he’s been Cogs. I just wish he didn’t cost so damn much.
+1
Would be a fantastic deal if it was .5 or a mil less.
by Kevin Riach on Jan 24, 2012 6:06 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yeah he is a little overpaid but you cant teach speed.
by Newport Rebel on Jan 24, 2012 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
Cogs has some wheels though and if we can get that EDM style of play out of him, he could be good for us. He has been stuck on a shitty team with shitty coaching till coming to ANA.
by Newport Rebel on Jan 24, 2012 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
agreed
I think it favors Dallas more if it stays like this.
by Kevin Riach on Jan 24, 2012 5:50 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Agreed
Need to create a little havoc and throw the body a bit.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
I was just going to say that
I really hope we can convince him to come back next year. I really wish he had been given the C after Scotty, too.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
I think I agree with that. Honestly, I wish Teemu would have taken it. It was never really his style, but Ithnk it would have been nice.
I think it says a lot that each of those three had there own reason why they weren’t ideal. I think Scotty leaving left as big a leadership hole as did on the back end.
by Kevin Riach on Jan 24, 2012 5:54 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
PK would have looked good with a letter as well.
by Newport Rebel on Jan 24, 2012 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
You mean Paul Kariya? I would have loved it if he could have come back to be the captain after Niedermayer retired :)
I would seriously cry if that happened. God damn concussions.
by Kevin Riach on Jan 24, 2012 6:04 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I truly believe Murray had every intent of bringing him in this year
I was the guy that asked him at the Select-a-Seat and he was adamant that he wanted to have him and that he wanted Pault o know he was welcome to come home at any time.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
I have Koivu with my First Goal Challenge pick
And with that, I have to go to work now
It was a good save by Lehtonen
It happens.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
Blake really does hold onto the puck too much. He is the antiGetzlaf. He’s sees an open man and starts looking for a shooting lane.
They saw it , they just figured the Ducks dont really need a PP. They need a PK.
by Newport Rebel on Jan 24, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah my bad forgot that was an AHL team.
by Newport Rebel on Jan 24, 2012 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
I’m surprised it took this long. Congrats to him, he’s been playing really well.
by light_the_lamp on Jan 24, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
Damn it. Only listening on the radio so I have no idea what happened, but sounded like a fluke deflection off Fowler.
by Kevin Riach on Jan 24, 2012 6:07 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
The shot was going three feet wide
But him Fowler in the stomach and popped over Jonas’ shoulder. You literally could not try to do that again if you wanted to.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
There have been more fluke goals like that this season then all the other years I’ve been watching the Ducks combined
by Kevin Riach on Jan 24, 2012 6:09 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yah hit Fowler, and rainbowed up and over Hiller and in the net.
by Hockey Phreak on Jan 24, 2012 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
That sucks
The Ducks have worked harder this period and just didn’t get teh break. Hopefully the will.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 6:06 PM PST reply actions
Fowler
Feel bad for ya.. Wiff on a nice opportunity and a GA goes off of him..
Good test for the Ducks
Can they overcome an absolutely terrible bounce and persevere?
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 6:07 PM PST reply actions
I agree
They just can’t get frustrated. They’ve got to keep playing their game and they’ll get one sooner rather than later.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno
Leightonen is always good against us. I don’t like ever giving that guy a lead. I feel like we are like the Sharks for Dallas. Their stars always play huge against us.
by Kevin Riach on Jan 24, 2012 6:13 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
1ST INTERMISSION QUESTION
Big baseball news: Prince Fielder signs a nine-year 214 Million Dollar deal with his daddy’s old team, the Tigers. Are they the favorite to win the AL Championship, or will it be another team?
Also: what do you think about the contract?
No and that contract he signed sucks for DET. Boras took DET to the cleaners. Say hello to a Gary Mathews Jr. 2.0 contract.
by Newport Rebel on Jan 24, 2012 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
I hope you feel the same way about the Pujols deal
Because Fielder stands a much better chance to be productive through the life of his contract than Pujols does.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
while I don’t think the Pujols deal will be bad I do agree that Fielder has a better chance of keeping his level of production high thought the full contract.
by MoralesHomers on Jan 24, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
Well the reason I think DET got hosed is only DET ans WSH were really bidding on Fielder and neither of those two teams had a truckload of cash to spend. Boras just played both teams really well but he is not worth what he is getting. Plus DET is a very very pitcher friendly park. His numbers are going to drop.
by Newport Rebel on Jan 24, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
Well they both did actually. WSH had a lot of money to spend and obviously so did DET. Mariners were also in it as was texas (though don’t think they were getting him).
by MoralesHomers on Jan 24, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions
Pujols will help the team pay his salary.
With the new TV deal looking to generate at the very least 25 million more per year (note, cost of his contract yearly), and the increase in ticket sales, I don’t think his contract will be as much of an albatross as everyone is saying it will. Arte has a lot of money.
The money for the pujols deal wasn’t pulled from elsewhere, snipping budget here and there to generate an extra 25 million. Its an extra 25 million arte is adding to the total team payroll, for the most part.
Yes, he might change his spending habits towards his team 6 or 7 years from now, but as for now I don’t see this as being your average huge baseball contract.
But if Pujols will help pay for his contract
Wouldn’t the same thing apply to the Tigers?
I’m just saying, there’s a cognitive dissonance here for Angels fans. If Prince’s deal is bad, than Pujol’s most certainly is because of age. If Pujol’s deal is good, Prince’s is better for the same reason.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
Oh i'm not one saying fielders deal is bad for the tigers.
Although I do believe pujols will mean more to the latino community of southern california than fielder will mean to whomever in the detroit community.
… which would thus result in an increase in angel fans in Arte’s campaign over the last couple years to draw ex-dodger fans/fans in general from southern los angeles county
I don’t think either deal is bad but Ill say both contracts and the situations are def. different.
by MoralesHomers on Jan 24, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
You mean the large black population in Detroit?
If we’re talking about ethnicity appeals, Fielder isn’t exactly a bad fit in Detroit.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
No they are not the favorites to win the AL in my opinion. They will however have the best 3, 4 hitters in the Majors though. Going to be a dynamic tandum. The deal as a whole I can see causing issues in the future with other players and contracts but his contract itself should be fine. Sure last couple years may not be great but you have to take into account his age. He is 27 which means he will be 36 when the contract is up. Not horrible.
by MoralesHomers on Jan 24, 2012 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
I think the angels have a legitimate shot at the AL this year too.
Along with the yankees, tigers, rangers, and boston.
After last year
I think the Boston curse is back and in spades. I love it when life gives us these little gifts.
by Newport Rebel on Jan 24, 2012 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
I think that baseball players make ridiculous amounts of money:)
by light_the_lamp on Jan 24, 2012 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
Technically, yes. But I still think that athletes in general make too much money.
by light_the_lamp on Jan 24, 2012 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
I do think a cap should be in place. Teams like ANA TEX BOS NYY PHI and STL will thrive but the rest of the league doesnt stand a chance.
by Newport Rebel on Jan 24, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
you realize while the TEX payroll is growing its not very big. STL also doesn’t have a huge payroll either. There are teams that have more money but it is the owners decision that they don’t want to spend it. Example Mariners who have plenty of money but the payroll is tiny. This is the case in all sports but you notice it more in baseball I think because contract and dollar amounts are talked about much more often and discussed a lot more cause of higher doller amounts.
by MoralesHomers on Jan 24, 2012 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
The reason the Mariners aren’t/can’t spend the money is because Seattle is not an attractive place to live. It’s a great city, don’t get me wrong, but remember when Griffey Jr. was traded to the Reds? One of the reasons, though it wasn’t announced in the press, is that Griffey wanted his kids to see some goddamned sun. That’s what you don’t get in Seattle. That is why when ever a hockey player comes to SoCal, they generally end up staying because the weather is so much better than where they were before. The M’s have a wonderful stadium, but they can’t draw Free Agents. Look at the Marlins: they have a new stadium and they went gangbusters (for Florida) this offseason. While part of it is the market and how much the owners want to spend, there is always the attractiveness of the market and the city.
Also
No hitter wants to play in Seattle, just like they don’t want to play in San Diego. Pitchers love those places, but in a game where your stats are so closely tied to your salary, I can understand why people avoid those places.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
In the defense of baseball players
They do play 162 games a year. That’s more of a lifestyle grind than any other sport.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
Yes but pitchers have one of the fewest shelf lives in all of sport
Even shorter than some football players
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
Nolan Ryan would not agree
Then again he was Nolan “Fucking” Ryan.
by Newport Rebel on Jan 24, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
Not true. While they don’t pitch every day they have a higher wear and tear rate, lower shelf life so there money increases faster. Also while they don’t pitch every day the lifestyle is the same cause they still have to be with the team just as much and work just as hard.
by MoralesHomers on Jan 24, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
Sure but thats the case in most sports. MLB is just one of the extremes examples of it.
by MoralesHomers on Jan 24, 2012 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
Great effort by Getz there to get that puck
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 6:34 PM PST reply actions
This game is so fucking annoying. Dallas barely knows they are playing in a hockey game, yet we can’t seem to put in one of our many chances.
Didnt you know Hockey isnt a game of skill its a game of Luck
by Hockey Phreak on Jan 24, 2012 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
True
Just ask Jonas on that first goal
by Newport Rebel on Jan 24, 2012 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
Well then
Interesting to see if there are any penalties out of this.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 6:51 PM PST reply actions
I hate the false equivalency bullshit
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
Fucking Ott
Parros needs to fuck that guy up. Where is Jaques when you need someone to do something stupid?
Parros is talking now. He’s letting Ott know. Ott won’t be on the ice with Parros for the rest of the game.
Thanks Jonas!
Talk about bailing your team out
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 6:55 PM PST reply actions
Hiller just said Fuck You to the Stars.
by Daniel AC on Jan 24, 2012 6:55 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I wonder if Nystrom is legally retarded
And by that I mean if his IQ is low enough to be literally retarded. He has already shattered a guy’s legs doing that same play this year. Figure it out idiot.
I do not like Bobby with the twins on the PP
I just don’t.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 7:03 PM PST reply actions
Selanne is a better fit with those two on the PP
And Bobby on the second unit has been successful recently. Just not sure why you’d change it up all of a sudden.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
No. Id rather he be healthy for games that matter.
"Thank you very much fans and let’s go for the next game together!"
— Lubomir Visnovsky
I rec’d that shit.
Yeah
Thank God the NHL hasn’t adopted MLB’s retarded rules about attributing additional significance to this game by making it affect home-ice advantage in the playoffs.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
We're playing fine
We just need a fucking puck to go in
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
Ok let me change that, we need a lucky 3rd.
by Hockey Phreak on Jan 24, 2012 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
Gotta avoid frustration
20 min left in a game they’ve controlled and down by one
Go Ducks!
And just think
That doesn’t count the ten or so that have missed altogether
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
Come on Ducks
Gotta get more time in the Dallas zone
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 7:29 PM PST reply actions
Sharapova and Makarova
are going at it on ESPN2 right now. Second Set is much tighter than the first.
Why couldn't that pass off the skate have gone in?
And now Cogs is possibly hurt. Yay.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 7:36 PM PST reply actions
We already have more PPs
than Dallas. I doubt we’ll see anything else go our way.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
We just arent having any luck, plain and simple. We are by far the better team out there,
by Hockey Phreak on Jan 24, 2012 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
This feels like a game against Nashville – a team that suffocates us with puck possession so we can’t score.
It's not even about puck posesesion
for the last ten minutes, Dallas has just thrown the puck out of the zone
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
This is just rough. There’s no finishing happening in this game.
by Daniel AC on Jan 24, 2012 7:59 PM PST via mobile reply actions
At least they lost playing very well instead of very bad. Stil hard to take though.
by MoralesHomers on Jan 24, 2012 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
The Ducks should not be down on themselves tonight
They played their asses off. They should be proud of what they did.
by PhantomPretender on Jan 24, 2012 8:00 PM PST reply actions
Silver Lining
They’ll go into the All-Star break knowing they have to be better, instead of knowing everything is working perfectly the way they were playing. The flaws (albeit minor ones) caught up to them this game like they almost did against Colorado.
FUCK
I thought a puck went in at the end :(
Time to shave :(
Same
I screamed yes only to be heartbroken as fuck a second later
by Dixie Normus on Jan 24, 2012 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Eh. I dont think Colorado out played us. Yes they had more shots, but they where just throwing anything and everything on net, that dosnt mean they played better.
by Hockey Phreak on Jan 24, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
fuck
dallas is lucky as hell, i guess having 5 goaltenders on the ice at once really does work, but what a boring team to watch. and steve ott needs to get fucked up, he’s one of the few human beings (i use that term loosely) that i would cheer for getting injured
by dontmesswiththestache on Jan 24, 2012 8:09 PM PST reply actions
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