[Ed. Note: Those of you who follow Kid ish on twitter may already know that he has some opinions on the MSM coverage of the Ducks' deadline activities. Luckily Anaheim Calling once had a good Editor and our friend Jen Neale did my job for me, encouraging him to compile his tweets into a blog post for discussion here. Thus we present Kid ish's twitter rant on why Bob Murray's Trade Deadline wasn't a complete disaster in blog form. Enjoy and discuss among yourselves. -CK]
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Ferraro on TSN Radio has a serious hate for the Anaheim Ducks today. Calls team's deadline outright failure for dealing Penner.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
Makes no mention of Penner's return flipping for a defender. Just saying ANA dealt Penner for nothing. Uh.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
But starts by saying VAN didn't tell ANA Kesler was off table until last 30 minutes of the day, and both NYI and BUF had moved on by then.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
My understanding on Ryan Kesler: Pittsburgh was the preferred (possibly only) destination for Vancouver to send Kesler because it is out of conference. Gillis is BIG on shit like that. Vancouver wanted a specific defenseman prospect from Pittsburgh, and they weren't having it. The package they offered was a third line pivot (Brandon Sutter, I think), a first, and a defense prospect that wasn't what Vancouver wanted. Apparently, they said no very early in the day to Pittsburgh, who went out and grabbed Marcel Goc instead.
The "feeling" from all the Gillis coverage is that Vancouver tried to recreate sort of a false market by tossing out Philadelphia as having made a serious offer (Philly denies this, saying they only inquired, because they were working on freeing up space for defense) to get Pittsburgh to reconsider, but that Anaheim's offer was apparently pretty good. Some think Gillis would have accepted it just to get Kesler out and maintain some sort of dignity, but ownership wasn't having it at all because Gillis is probably gone at the end of the season. Letting him deal a solid 2C to a rival is bad biz. But others think Gillis just hates dealing in conference, which is also pretty logical.
Yet somehow, ANA royally screwed up [their TSN deadline coverage, which I suppose is the real stake he has here].— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
A word on this: TSN went all-in on Anaheim being in on Vanek while Pittsburgh was the favorite landing pad for Kesler. Sportsnet went all in on Montreal being in on Vanek. There's probably a bit of a sore spot on the TSN side because they were running with their hunch that was wrong, and their competitors ran with one that was right re: Vanek. Oops.
I don't think ANA did themselves any favors yesterday, but calling the day before a failure for sending out F for D seems overly harsh.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
What tickles me about Ferraro on this: the dude is a paid analyst, and he's dropping heavy while giving half the story. Which…?— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
So @rayferrarotsn, was ANA sending Penner for pick to get Robidas bad? You only told half the tale on @HayesTSN today, yeah?— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
@msjenneale_pd Well he's injured. "Unknown commodity." Sure, except clean breaks aren't as hard to come back from as other injuries.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
@msjenneale_pd And yet they'll ALL go on about how extra D bodies win championships w/top quality teams. Lazy storytelling at times.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
Again I don't think ANA's deadline was stunning win, but adding D for inconsistent F doesn't seem like a loss either. cc: @rayferrarotsn— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
Also on the ANA-VAN-Kes thing. ANA offered 2 RD1 and 2 RD2 picks for him, no current players. Given market, not a bad haul.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
Some grumbling I think valid too: Vatanen got hurt with the Ads, but I suspect he would have been part of picks for Kesler.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
I think Sami Vatanen was one injury away from being gonezo. He's highly sought, especially after his showing at the Olympics.
Murray didn't want to move roster player or key prospects (Etem, Rakell) and threw out FOUR first/second picks. VAN said no, so.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
And if Ferraro is right (prob is), VAN told ANA "no" at the 11th hour. NYI and BUF were knee deep with MTL/TOR/??? and MIN at that point.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
On TSN yesterday, TOR's Nonis told guys that he talked to ANA's Murray, and Bob wasn't disappointed. Went after his target, didn't work out.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
But Murray apparently told Nonis that recently, teams making big splashes don't win the Cup. Strong foundation has to be there.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
Murray didn't want to shake that foundation to acquire Kesler when that base has the best record in the league. So he offered from strength.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
ANA has one of the top prospect bases in league. Draft picks only help it (and are still avail for trade in June). Offered VAN draft picks.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
But sending 13g scorer for pick to get pretty solid D for "short season" is way less foundation shakeup than sending youth away.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
Dustin Penner wasn't playing poorly, but there's a bit of a rumor about that Murray was getting peeved again because of motivation/effort. By scratching two hungry wingers per game, the team was giving ice to a guy who they were struggling to motivate well or get consistent effort from again.
This was Murray's complaint about Penner when he wasn't on the team anymore. Steve Simmons, a reporter from the Toronto Sun, sat next to the Anaheim exec suite during the Cup run because he was chummy with Burke then and promised to keep things off the record since the media box was too full. He said all he heard about Penner from Burke, Murray, etc. was that they LOVED his hands but didn't get why he wouldn't play his ass off, considering those hands.
My belief is that this REALLY came to a head with the Olympics. Saku Koivu turned down a very prestigious offer from Finland to rest up for Anaheim. Penner not giving his all coming back from that probably didn't sit well with a management group who had to be convinced by Getzlaf to give Penner a chance in the first place.
Also, Penner was only +2.3 Corsi Rel at the time of trade, meaning he wasn't really driving play on his line as much as his linemates. We all saw that, and 13 goals from Penner with Ryan Getzlaf and Corey Perry is pretty average, really. They've done as well with nearly every other LW put there for a time, and Murray wants to let Palmieri and Maroon continue to earn chances there.
STL w/Miller isn't that much better than STL w/Halak, at least on paper. LAK w/Gaborik is ???. SJS didn't even move. CHI grabbed depth D.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
So ANA flipping F for D is pretty consistent with Western Conf tinkering, seems to me.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
Ultimately, ANA sent out one F on team w/2 current F's who play exactly the same game while also scratching 2 F's per game.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
In ANA, the wing is the logjam (due to Selanne, sure), so ANA dealt its most desired avail wing to get pick to start deal for Robidas.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
Stephane Robidas asked to come to Anaheim, specifically. That's what Eliotte Friedman implied in one of his Twitter convos. Dallas wanted to honor him given that they couldn't promise a playoff berth and his contract running down.
Robidas, FYI: really good, steady right-handed D, will play top4 mins. Great numbers. Is coming back in 10 days, reportedly feels great.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
Robidas is awesome. Here's his Extra Skater page. Here's his usage, isolated.
Robidas coming in means Lindholm can slot third pairing, which makes ANA tougher to play against. Protects Lindholm from weaknesses too.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
ANA addressed a position of want/need w/depth at position (F). That is not recipe for "deadline bust" but "steady tinkering"— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014
Thanks for reading while I clogged up your TLs.— Kid Ish (@kid_ish) March 6, 2014